3. Kenyan roadrunners, up till now not controlled, will be much more controlled in the future at the National and the local levels.
4. Testing of roadrunners throughout the nation has already started this summer with numerous cases and this will continue.
Controlling the roadrunner has been tried before. It's extremely hard.
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They will have different roadrunning and athletic's officials in the different areas of Kenya testing runners apparently on a permanent basis.
I think some people will be happy about this because people who don't believe the exaggerated claims that many Kenyans are doping will be vindicated in showing that the majority of Kenyan runners can reach a very high level without doping.
You just have to go to Japan and look at those young Kenyan runners in the 18 to 21 year old age group who are running low 13 and low 27 and sometimes even less and in Japan obviously it is impossible to dope because their lives are controlled 24/7.
They will have different roadrunning and athletic's officials in the different areas of Kenya testing runners apparently on a permanent basis.
I think some people will be happy about this because people who don't believe the exaggerated claims that many Kenyans are doping will be vindicated in showing that the majority of Kenyan runners can reach a very high level without doping.
You just have to go to Japan and look at those young Kenyan runners in the 18 to 21 year old age group who are running low 13 and low 27 and sometimes even less and in Japan obviously it is impossible to dope because their lives are controlled 24/7.
You are joking right? After 63 suspensions in one month by the AIU. Note, not caught by anti doping Kenya. I just assume all runners living and training in Kenya are doping.
They will have different roadrunning and athletic's officials in the different areas of Kenya testing runners apparently on a permanent basis.
I think some people will be happy about this because people who don't believe the exaggerated claims that many Kenyans are doping will be vindicated in showing that the majority of Kenyan runners can reach a very high level without doping.
You just have to go to Japan and look at those young Kenyan runners in the 18 to 21 year old age group who are running low 13 and low 27 and sometimes even less and in Japan obviously it is impossible to dope because their lives are controlled 24/7.
You are joking right? After 63 suspensions in one month by the AIU. Note, not caught by anti doping Kenya. I just assume all runners living and training in Kenya are doping.
It is integral to their sporting culture - it isn't the exception. That is why it won't be eliminated.
You are joking right? After 63 suspensions in one month by the AIU. Note, not caught by anti doping Kenya. I just assume all runners living and training in Kenya are doping.
It is integral to their sporting culture - it isn't the exception. That is why it won't be eliminated.
Armstronglivs - as the global authority on doping, combined with the divine ability to single out and label individual athletes as dopers who have never tested positive I would love to hear your solution to eliminating doping in athletics. Please tell.
It is integral to their sporting culture - it isn't the exception. That is why it won't be eliminated.
Armstronglivs - as the global authority on doping, combined with the divine ability to single out and label individual athletes as dopers who have never tested positive I would love to hear your solution to eliminating doping in athletics. Please tell.
There is no solution. The manufacturers of these drugs will always find ways to evade detection. It is a game of catch-up that antidoping inevitably loses. Howman has said as much when he says "doping is more sophisticated than antidoping". He has also conceded that the best we can hope for is to reduce the incidence of doping, and not simply by trying to penalise athletes for using it but to educate young athletes in particular to its risks to health and reputation. Sadly, they are mostly prepared to take those risks.
Sport is in one sense a victim of its own progress - doping is a form of "progress", of technological sophistication that aids performance and thus "success". That genie is out of the bottle and will not be put back. The lure of success is too great.
You are joking right? After 63 suspensions in one month by the AIU. Note, not caught by anti doping Kenya. I just assume all runners living and training in Kenya are doping.
It is integral to their sporting culture - it isn't the exception. That is why it won't be eliminated.
Unfortunately one of the most important measure is missing:
Legal consequences, as doping is a crime. It is fraud.
What Kenia is doing is patchwork.
Do you have any better suggestions?
It's already a big step forward, at least on paper, but let's see how it's implemented in the coming months.
I am talking about a value system. Is it acceptable to just block an athlete several month, if he commits a crime, stealing the price/sponsor money from another athlete, with illegal stuff? It is fraud, simple as that. That topic was discussed endlessly, by a lot of people.
The goverment makes the laws. If there is no leagl action, the doping mafia in Kenia can burn athlete after athlete, without consequences. It seems to be that the goverment in Kenia wants that to happen. The entanglements seems to be quite deep.
Hope, i opened your mind at least a little bit.
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That would be a shameful solution for the majority of clean athletes in Kenya. This nonsense from people suggesting that most Kenyan athletes are doping is devoid of logic and reasonable understanding of the situation in Kenya.
I have spent extended periods of time there over several years and have seen little or no evidence of doping by the majority of runners that I come into contact with, most of whom live in very modest, humble circumstances. Most of these guys just want to make an honest living to provide for their families.
It is integral to their sporting culture - it isn't the exception. That is why it won't be eliminated.
How do you qualify this statement ?
I don't qualify it. It is as I have described. Those caught - who currently exceed any other nation in the sport - will be only a fraction of those doping. That means it will be right through their sport. When it becomes that prevalent it is effectively a norm. Only a major cultural shift would change that.
It will only improve their image - like you say. It won't eliminate doping.
Of course it will never eliminate doping completely but it will radically reduce the chances of dopers being able to get away with their infractions and make potential dopers think twice before crossing the line.
By the way, in the article there was a separate link to the Rhonex Kipruto case in which Rhonex continues to maintain his innocence and supported by his coach the Irish priest in ITEN, Colm O'Donnell. The head of the US cycling body, Travis M. stated that there are many false cases in these kind of tests and taking this further this may have been the case with Rhonex.
Permit me this correction: Colm O'Donnell is a Catholic brother and not a Catholic priest, like St. Francis of Assissi.
Armstronglivs - as the global authority on doping, combined with the divine ability to single out and label individual athletes as dopers who have never tested positive I would love to hear your solution to eliminating doping in athletics. Please tell.
There is no solution. The manufacturers of these drugs will always find ways to evade detection. It is a game of catch-up that antidoping inevitably loses. Howman has said as much when he says "doping is more sophisticated than antidoping". He has also conceded that the best we can hope for is to reduce the incidence of doping, and not simply by trying to penalise athletes for using it but to educate young athletes in particular to its risks to health and reputation. Sadly, they are mostly prepared to take those risks.
Sport is in one sense a victim of its own progress - doping is a form of "progress", of technological sophistication that aids performance and thus "success". That genie is out of the bottle and will not be put back. The lure of success is too great.
You continue to misquote and attempt to get away with referring to matters from over 25 years ago.
You refuse to consider the latest research but keep repeating your same suppositions and lies you did at the start of your 20,000 posts.