maybe just a bad season. Kilbourne will need to have some of there runners step up
Here's what Kilbourne is looking like right now non seniors form the pervious xc season 1.Ryan Smith15:13.6 2.Steven Miller15:32.6 3.AJ Hawkins16:00.9 4.Levi Knuth16:40.2 5. Nathan Bradley17:02.3 6.Jackson Deisler17:22.07 7.Thomas Katsares17:36.3
maybe just a bad season. Kilbourne will need to have some of there runners step up
Here's what Kilbourne is looking like right now non seniors form the pervious xc season 1.Ryan Smith15:13.6 2.Steven Miller15:32.6 3.AJ Hawkins16:00.9 4.Levi Knuth16:40.2 5. Nathan Bradley17:02.3 6.Jackson Deisler17:22.07 7.Thomas Katsares17:36.3
Deisler is a freshman and stepped up during track. He ran a 10:14 3200
I hate to break it to you, but a 4th man running 10:14 isn’t going to cut it to even qualify for states. Not to mention that they need a strong 5th runner also. Kilbourne has a really solid top 3, but they just don’t have enough depth to make any use of it. Compare them to Dub. Coffman. Dub Coffman’s 5th returner has ran 9:58. They look in much better shape than Kilbourne.
I hate to break it to you, but a 4th man running 10:14 isn’t going to cut it to even qualify for states. Not to mention that they need a strong 5th runner also. Kilbourne has a really solid top 3, but they just don’t have enough depth to make any use of it. Compare them to Dub. Coffman. Dub Coffman’s 5th returner has ran 9:58. They look in much better shape than Kilbourne.
Yeah that’s why I have Coffman ahead of Kilbourne.
Aside from the solid top 3 and Deisler, they also return Knuth who ran a 16:40 5k last fall. His track times aren’t great relative to his XC performances but they weren’t great during any season. So he is probably much better at XC than track.
That 10:14 guy has a possibility of stepping up a lot next year considering he is only a freshman. Bigger jumps happen from freshman to sophomore year than from sophomore to junior year, let alone from junior to senior year
A Columbus school has not won division 1 boys in 12 years. Let's not act like anything will change. Mason will win again (The biggest school by enrollment in the state will win again, shocker.)
I hate to break it to you, but a 4th man running 10:14 isn’t going to cut it to even qualify for states. Not to mention that they need a strong 5th runner also. Kilbourne has a really solid top 3, but they just don’t have enough depth to make any use of it. Compare them to Dub. Coffman. Dub Coffman’s 5th returner has ran 9:58. They look in much better shape than Kilbourne.
Dont forget that they have a very good top 3 but they have all summer to improve and they will need to improve but I think they have a very good shot at least making it to states.
Who do you all think the top schools will be looking like for next year
Productions I've been hearing about; 1:Mason 2: St. X 3: Massillon Jackson
Anyone got anything for a top 10?
West Geauga in D2 had a few good years--lots of guys in the 16s; their top guy was in the 15s. The girls' side had a girl in the 19s and a few in the 20s. But that may have been last year or the year before.
Kilbourne won't ever have the long term success of Orange, Coffman, Davidson, Lancaster, etc, because of coaching. Their recent success is just a function a very talented junior class and a few rogue individuals here and there over the years. I think Ryan Smith's mom is an assistant and designs everything now. The head coach looks like an ex football guy, tbh. Once that class is done, they'll be irrelevant again.
Growing up in CLE I remember always being concerned about the big schools in Cinci and Cbus. Even as far back as 1998 to 2002. Coffman has usually been consistently good, as has Davidson.
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Kilbourne won't ever have the long term success of Orange, Coffman, Davidson, Lancaster, etc, because of coaching. Their recent success is just a function a very talented junior class and a few rogue individuals here and there over the years. I think Ryan Smith's mom is an assistant and designs everything now. The head coach looks like an ex football guy, tbh. Once that class is done, they'll be irrelevant again.
Yeah next year is Kilbourne’s year to do something special. To make state / place high there.
After class of 2024 graduates, they will be back where they came from
A Columbus school has not won division 1 boys in 12 years. Let's not act like anything will change. Mason will win again (The biggest school by enrollment in the state will win again, shocker.)
I wasn’t saying that Kilbourne or Coffman will win
Mason is the favorite to win right now, but watch out for Mas. Jackson too. Mas. Jackson had some guys missing at state but they return pretty much everyone. They will have good 1-7 depth
The 4x800 is one of the most popular events in the state meet and is one of my favorites along with the 4x400. This year it is stacked but there really is a lot of disparity between the regions.
The heat sheets for the regions is posted along with the seed times. I averaged out the seed times and looked at the data a bit to highlight how disparate the regions are.
Wayne’s average seed time for the 16 teams is 8:06.09 with 7 teams being under 8 minutes. Six teams have seed times over 8:10 and one team Piqua, has a seed time of 8:31.95.
Pickerington has an average seed time of 7:56.69 with 12 teams under 8 minutes. Not a single team has a seed time over 8:10 and the slowest seed time, of Orange, is 8:07.19.
Fitch has an average seed time of 8:06.73 with 2 teams under 8:00. Mayfield has the slowest seed time at 8:13.51. There are a lot of teams clustered between 8:02 & 8:10ish.
Steele has an average time of 8:10.29 with 2 teams under 8:00. Ashland has the slowest seed time at 8:28.37. There are 4 teams with seed times over 8:15.
I just can’t ever remember the regions being this uneven with one region being so dominant. It is conceivable that the odd team left out from Pickerington could have a faster time than the fastest time from any of the other regions with the most obvious exception being St X.