Apparently Thomas did that in the Penn locker room as well. I read a NY Post article that stated "Thomas would often walk around naked...and 'she' was still attracted to women, if you know what I mean"
I get the problems that exist in having trans women compete against biological women. The trans women can, but not always do, have physical advantages of size, strength and speed. But the locker room argument is at best an attempt to revive Victorian attitudes about sex and at worse a trope that trans women are just perverts who are pretending to be women so they can get into a locker room and get big stiffies in front of women as they change clothes. By that standard, anyone who is not cis gender and straight has to be isolated in a locker room situation for fear that they will get all horny when they see naked people. Most women will see lots of wee wees in their lives and it will mostly be in very non-sexual situations, like being around a brother as a child or having a boy as a child or seeing their father naked. Seeing a trans women's male genitalia for a brief moment in a locker room is not going to kill anyone.
Aren't you the guy who said that if a little girl is uncomfortable with seeing penises in a female locker room she should get over it?
Why do you always feel the need to argue for men showing their penises off to women and children whenever this argue crops up.
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I get the problems that exist in having trans women compete against biological women. The trans women can, but not always do, have physical advantages of size, strength and speed. But the locker room argument is at best an attempt to revive Victorian attitudes about sex and at worse a trope that trans women are just perverts who are pretending to be women so they can get into a locker room and get big stiffies in front of women as they change clothes. By that standard, anyone who is not cis gender and straight has to be isolated in a locker room situation for fear that they will get all horny when they see naked people. Most women will see lots of wee wees in their lives and it will mostly be in very non-sexual situations, like being around a brother as a child or having a boy as a child or seeing their father naked. Seeing a trans women's male genitalia for a brief moment in a locker room is not going to kill anyone.
Aren't you the guy who said that if a little girl is uncomfortable with seeing penises in a female locker room she should get over it?
Why do you always feel the need to argue for men showing their penises off to women and children whenever this argue crops up.
Precious Roy wrote: The other argument is that sweet little Madison doesn't want to have to see a trans women's male genitals in the shower or the restroom. In the case of the latter, you have to wonder why sweet little Madison is checking people out in the women's restroom. As for showers and dressing rooms, if someone does not want to be in the same shower/dressing room as a trans woman, that is something that responsible adults can work out without having to have the legislature involved. It is also a bit Victorian to believe that women and girls will be harmed if they see a penis live and in person.
I think this is a far more important topic than whether transgenders should be allowed to compete against females in sports. Are you a bigot if you don't want to use a shower room or change room with a transgender in there wi...
A part of me feels bad for the young lady in the story. She sees herself as someone standing up for women in sports. But in reality, she is being used, just like Greta Turnberg, as a pawn in a grab for power. It's easier to put a young person up there to take fire than yourself.
Apparently Thomas did that in the Penn locker room as well. I read a NY Post article that stated "Thomas would often walk around naked...and 'she' was still attracted to women, if you know what I mean"
I get the problems that exist in having trans women compete against biological women. The trans women can, but not always do, have physical advantages of size, strength and speed. But the locker room argument is at best an attempt to revive Victorian attitudes about sex and at worse a trope that trans women are just perverts who are pretending to be women so they can get into a locker room and get big stiffies in front of women as they change clothes. By that standard, anyone who is not cis gender and straight has to be isolated in a locker room situation for fear that they will get all horny when they see naked people. Most women will see lots of wee wees in their lives and it will mostly be in very non-sexual situations, like being around a brother as a child or having a boy as a child or seeing their father naked. Seeing a trans women's male genitalia for a brief moment in a locker room is not going to kill anyone.
You disgusting transphobe. Just because a trans woman has a hard on in a women's changing room, doesn't mean that they are 'perverts pretending to be a woman'. There is something called involuntary erections you know. It's normal for an adult human, male, female, or trans, to be instinctively aroused at the sight of other naked humans. If the sight of a naked trans woman with a huge erection in a girl's locker room offends any young girls, then it's they who need some re-education in tolerance, inclusion and non-binary diversity.
Does anyone else question the veracity of this story? "Women's sports advocate" Riley Gaines is the one making the claims. She attended the State of the Union on Tuesday and is at "forefront of ensuring female athletes have an equal opportunity to perform in women’s sports".
So .... is it possible she concocted this worse case scenario story to further her agenda ... coincidentally on a day where the media is on high alert for news/topics that can be used to undermine Biden's SotU spotlight?
Why wouldn't we have already heard all about this on the day that it happened? Maybe I'm just not in the loop and missed that when it happened. But call me skeptical.
I get the problems that exist in having trans women compete against biological women. The trans women can, but not always do, have physical advantages of size, strength and speed. But the locker room argument is at best an attempt to revive Victorian attitudes about sex and at worse a trope that trans women are just perverts who are pretending to be women so they can get into a locker room and get big stiffies in front of women as they change clothes. By that standard, anyone who is not cis gender and straight has to be isolated in a locker room situation for fear that they will get all horny when they see naked people. Most women will see lots of wee wees in their lives and it will mostly be in very non-sexual situations, like being around a brother as a child or having a boy as a child or seeing their father naked. Seeing a trans women's male genitalia for a brief moment in a locker room is not going to kill anyone.
You disgusting transphobe. Just because a trans woman has a hard on in a women's changing room, doesn't mean that they are 'perverts pretending to be a woman'. There is something called involuntary erections you know. It's normal for an adult human, male, female, or trans, to be instinctively aroused at the sight of other naked humans. If the sight of a naked trans woman with a huge erection in a girl's locker room offends any young girls, then it's they who need some re-education in tolerance, inclusion and non-binary diversity.
for humanity's sake I hope Jades' post is parody and trolling
HE hadn't had surgery, meaning he still had testicles, which is the male organ and they allowed HIM into the female restroom and to compete?
Transgender Female competitors at minimum to make an argument of inclusion should demonstrate "effort" with at least completing the surgery and having testosterone in proper guidelines equal to female competitors... in my opinion, this was a man who is a cross dresser. Which is to say a man who likes to dress as a woman but is still a man!
Reality... MEN SHOULD NOT BE COMPETING WITH WOMEN.
Reality... This is not a Caster Semenya "Intersex" argument, at least intersex "i" have an argument as biological females with ambiguous genitilia which is 1-organ. This is wrong on so many levels.
this is clearly a male with male anatomy. I feel horrified for those young ladies. He still had testicles~!
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaah, sky is falling heeeeeeelp, dangerous weeee weee spotted in women’s loooooooooo.
this thread will perfectly exemplify the double standards and fallacies of liberal thought and ideals. None of which have any resemblance to sound (first grade level) logic, reason or practicality. One poster want's to "re-educate" society about naked adult men in the locker room. Most people are sufficiently educated just fine in that regard. But for kicks, let's flush out how you propose to "re-educate" society, when would the reeducation be complete? Like what are some practical action steps, what would that look like? Who would pay for it, how and when will it be done. You know, compare it to an act like brushing your teeth... step 1) acquire toothbrush and tooth paste 2) turn on the water so and so forth.
Thank God you worship the state and look to the state to take care of you or else you wouldn't go one day without somehow dying. You should really look to individual - yourself. You are the problem and the solution.
This exercise works on all liberal ideas, pick any of them - free healthcare, the institution of blah blah, pick one, any of them, all of them. They are all fallacies, all they are is a running list of double standards. Scorched earthers they are, they will not stop until it's all burned down. The sad part is, even then, they will not be satisfied and they are their own worst enemy. I feel sorry for them.
Does anyone else question the veracity of this story? "Women's sports advocate" Riley Gaines is the one making the claims. She attended the State of the Union on Tuesday and is at "forefront of ensuring female athletes have an equal opportunity to perform in women’s sports".
So .... is it possible she concocted this worse case scenario story to further her agenda ... coincidentally on a day where the media is on high alert for news/topics that can be used to undermine Biden's SotU spotlight?
Why wouldn't we have already heard all about this on the day that it happened? Maybe I'm just not in the loop and missed that when it happened. But call me skeptical.
so you have a conspiracy theory is what you're saying? Seems like the facts are pretty cut and dry without a lot of room for interpretation. What in the claim is subjective?
A part of me feels bad for the young lady in the story. She sees herself as someone standing up for women in sports. But in reality, she is being used, just like Greta Turnberg, as a pawn in a grab for power. It's easier to put a young person up there to take fire than yourself.
100% right. It's sad to see children being used to push lies.
Apparently Thomas did that in the Penn locker room as well. I read a NY Post article that stated "Thomas would often walk around naked...and 'she' was still attracted to women, if you know what I mean"
I get the problems that exist in having trans women compete against biological women. The trans women can, but not always do, have physical advantages of size, strength and speed. But the locker room argument is at best an attempt to revive Victorian attitudes about sex and at worse a trope that trans women are just perverts who are pretending to be women so they can get into a locker room and get big stiffies in front of women as they change clothes. By that standard, anyone who is not cis gender and straight has to be isolated in a locker room situation for fear that they will get all horny when they see naked people. Most women will see lots of wee wees in their lives and it will mostly be in very non-sexual situations, like being around a brother as a child or having a boy as a child or seeing their father naked. Seeing a trans women's male genitalia for a brief moment in a locker room is not going to kill anyone.
The Phallus see in your argument is that there is no consent. All of those other things occur with the consent of both parties. In this instance, there is no consent from the females, who in a female dressing room have a reasonable expectation to privacy and that they will be entering a phallus free zone. There is no equivalent in what you are suggesting. In my own experience, my tweenage daughters were in the women's locker room at our gym when a twenty something trans individual comes walking through the women's locker with his meat stick hanging out leering at the women and young girls who were changing. The incident was traumatic enough for my girls, but the policy leaves open the very real prospect of individuals (trans or otherwise) committing assaults against young females in these areas. It is a Pandora's box that does not need to be opened. There is no way to distinguish between an individual who is legitimately trans and someone who is simply a pervert.
A part of me feels bad for the young lady in the story. She sees herself as someone standing up for women in sports. But in reality, she is being used, just like Greta Turnberg, as a pawn in a grab for power. It's easier to put a young person up there to take fire than yourself.
100% right. It's sad to see children being used to push lies.
HE hadn't had surgery, meaning he still had testicles, which is the male organ and they allowed HIM into the female restroom and to compete?
Transgender Female competitors at minimum to make an argument of inclusion should demonstrate "effort" with at least completing the surgery and having testosterone in proper guidelines equal to female competitors... in my opinion, this was a man who is a cross dresser. Which is to say a man who likes to dress as a woman but is still a man!
Reality... MEN SHOULD NOT BE COMPETING WITH WOMEN.
Reality... This is not a Caster Semenya "Intersex" argument, at least intersex "i" have an argument as biological females with ambiguous genitilia which is 1-organ. This is wrong on so many levels.
this is clearly a male with male anatomy. I feel horrified for those young ladies. He still had testicles~!
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaah, sky is falling heeeeeeelp, dangerous weeee weee spotted in women’s loooooooooo.
Technically it’s considered public lewdness and if you tried it you’d be arrested. No woman wants to see a men’s package in public. Not even yours.