TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Your raging racism is over the top
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Newname wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
They've been under attack since before 1948.
Your raging anti-semitism is showing.
The arabs started the violence. They just suck at it.
Euro Jews turned an Arab Land into a Jewish supremacist state.
You can only do this by driving out lots of Arabs.
Which they did.'
That anyone can fall for the absurd lie that the Arabs are responsible for the violence is shocking.
The racist supporters of the Apartheid state can only whine about non-existent antisemitism
The land was largely empty. The land the Jews started with was purchased not stolen.
If you start multiple wars and lose them all and lose some land you aren't a victim you're an idiot.
Arabs in Israel literally live better than the average arab lives in Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, or Egypt.
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And of course the apartheid system in place in Israel is not helping either.
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Duke steak wrote:
The Brits controlled the land and created the Balfour Declaration which announced their support for the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people.
The Brits simultaneously promised the same piece of land to Arabs in Hussein-McMahon correspondence. They are more responsible for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict than any other country.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Newname wrote:
Euro Jews turned an Arab Land into a Jewish supremacist state.
You can only do this by driving out lots of Arabs.
Which they did.'
That anyone can fall for the absurd lie that the Arabs are responsible for the violence is shocking.
The racist supporters of the Apartheid state can only whine about non-existent antisemitism
The land was largely empty. The land the Jews started with was purchased not stolen.
If you start multiple wars and lose them all and lose some land you aren't a victim you're an idiot.
Arabs in Israel literally live better than the average arab lives in Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, or Egypt.
The land was empty.
God help us.
Love how Zios feel they can speak for Arabs.
Pretty sure the thousands murdered and who have had their land and homes stolen do not see themselves as fortunate.
I would guess even you admit Jews have it better than non Jews in Israel.
And you are fine with this. You are a racist
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Rub the nob before races? wrote:
Palestinian supporters who want to end suffering of Palestinians and want to create a state for Palestinians need to compromise to create that state as a Palestinian homeland and get Palestinians refugees out of Syria or Lebanon refugee camps into the Palestinian homeland.
Palestinian leaders are scared to make any meaningful compromise because of what happened to Anwar Sadat.
The same with Israeli leaders and assassination of Rabin.
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Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
Duke steak wrote:
The Brits controlled the land and created the Balfour Declaration which announced their support for the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people.
The Brits simultaneously promised the same piece of land to Arabs in Hussein-McMahon correspondence. They are more responsible for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict than any other country.
The Balfour declaration was written and pushed by Zionist Jews.'
The Brits did not come up with this
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Che silvera is slow wrote:
Can someone explain this conflict please with minimal bias
The crux of the issue is that Israel never had a fundamental reason to exist, but Jewish people wanted a homeland and they convinced powerful western countries to go with that plan and plopped the state of Israel on the map right amidst a bunch of Arab countries soon after WW2.
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Newname wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
The land was largely empty. The land the Jews started with was purchased not stolen.
If you start multiple wars and lose them all and lose some land you aren't a victim you're an idiot.
Arabs in Israel literally live better than the average arab lives in Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, or Egypt.
The land was empty.
God help us.
Love how Zios feel they can speak for Arabs.
Pretty sure the thousands murdered and who have had their land and homes stolen do not see themselves as fortunate.
I would guess even you admit Jews have it better than non Jews in Israel.
And you are fine with this. You are a racist
I didn't say empty I said "largely empty".
The Arabs started the violence. Starting a fight and then whining when it doesn't go your way is pathetic.
So long as the Palestinians glorify violence and teach their kids to hate I will support the Israelis over them.
If the Palestinians laid down their weapons today there would be peace today.
If the Jews laid down their weapons there would be another Holocaust.
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huh. wrote:
Che silvera is slow wrote:
Can someone explain this conflict please with minimal bias
The crux of the issue is that Israel never had a fundamental reason to exist, but Jewish people wanted a homeland and they convinced powerful western countries to go with that plan and plopped the state of Israel on the map right amidst a bunch of Arab countries soon after WW2.
Israel is fundamental to Judaism and for 2000 years Jews have been praying for a return to the land of Israel. The idea that a State of Israel was cavalierly plopped in the middle of Arab countries is disingenuous.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Newname wrote:
The land was empty.
God help us.
Love how Zios feel they can speak for Arabs.
Pretty sure the thousands murdered and who have had their land and homes stolen do not see themselves as fortunate.
I would guess even you admit Jews have it better than non Jews in Israel.
And you are fine with this. You are a racist
If the Palestinians laid down their weapons today there would be peace today.
Naive or ignorant.
Settlers would force more Pakistan’s from their homes and into refugee camps.
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coach wrote:
huh. wrote:
The crux of the issue is that Israel never had a fundamental reason to exist, but Jewish people wanted a homeland and they convinced powerful western countries to go with that plan and plopped the state of Israel on the map right amidst a bunch of Arab countries soon after WW2.
Israel is fundamental to Judaism and for 2000 years Jews have been praying for a return to the land of Israel. The idea that a State of Israel was cavalierly plopped in the middle of Arab countries is disingenuous.
The Old Testament isn’t really a land deed that all can agree on.
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The honest Israeli wrote:
coach wrote:
Israel is fundamental to Judaism and for 2000 years Jews have been praying for a return to the land of Israel. The idea that a State of Israel was cavalierly plopped in the middle of Arab countries is disingenuous.
The Old Testament isn’t really a land deed that all can agree on.
Well if Israel is fundamental to Judaism, I guess that means Jews from anywhere in the world are entitled to kill and steal and do whatever is necessary to create a Jewish state on top of Palestine.
Israel was not "plopped" anywhere. Zionist Jews used violence and lies to make it happen
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The honest Israeli wrote:
coach wrote:
Israel is fundamental to Judaism and for 2000 years Jews have been praying for a return to the land of Israel. The idea that a State of Israel was cavalierly plopped in the middle of Arab countries is disingenuous.
The Old Testament isn’t really a land deed that all can agree on.
Jews (Hebrews, Israelites) were expelled from the land 2000 years ago were they not? They have endeavored to return ever since have they not? There's room enough for Palestinians and Israelis is there not?
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coach wrote:
The honest Israeli wrote:
The Old Testament isn’t really a land deed that all can agree on.
Jews (Hebrews, Israelites) were expelled from the land 2000 years ago were they not? They have endeavored to return ever since have they not? There's room enough for Palestinians and Israelis is there not?
Who was there before the Jews?
Do they not own the land?
How about the people living there for the past several centuries?
No land rights for them?
Israel will not share with non Jews. They demand a Jewish majority. I assume you do too
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Two groups of people want to control the same plot of land.
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samcallan wrote:
Two groups of people want to control the same plot of land.
Yes.
The people who had been living there for centuries and people from Europe who want it and took it
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coach wrote:
The honest Israeli wrote:
The Old Testament isn’t really a land deed that all can agree on.
Jews (Hebrews, Israelites) were expelled from the land 2000 years ago were they not? They have endeavored to return ever since have they not? There's room enough for Palestinians and Israelis is there not?
One of the questions is "what makes one a Palestinian". Wikipedia offers this
The Palestinian National Charter, as amended by the PLO's Palestinian National Council in July 1968, defined "Palestinians" as "those Arab nationals who, until 1947, normally resided in Palestine regardless of whether they were evicted from it or stayed there. Anyone born, after that date, of a Palestinian father – whether in Palestine or outside it – is also a Palestinian.00 -
The honest Israeli wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
If the Palestinians laid down their weapons today there would be peace today.
Naive or ignorant.
Settlers would force more Pakistan’s from their homes and into refugee camps.
"Pakistans"
The refugee camps are voluntary. They've been there for 50+ years because they are a cash cow for the corrupt Palestinian leadership that lives in lavish villas in Europe.
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