Most T&F athletes can outperform a first relay leg 100m, 200m, 400m, 800m or 1500m in an open. Depends. If you're a 1:48.xx relay, 1:51.xx guy. Sure. Coaches will want to talk to you.
Most T&F athletes can outperform a first relay leg 100m, 200m, 400m, 800m or 1500m in an open. Depends. If you're a 1:48.xx relay, 1:51.xx guy. Sure. Coaches will want to talk to you.
ran 1:54 in high school on video with FAT timing twice at high caliber races but only had a 1:58 open and 4:23 full mile. coach took it and got substantial scholarship to a lower tier d1 college. it can be done don't let these trolls ruin your dreams. you won't know if you don't try
Flagpole wrote:
Doesn't matter what you say about a relay. Open times matter. Don't hope that that's not true. It is.
False. Nothing matters.
Which college? I had 2 kids graduate last year with 1:54 and 1:55 open and 1:53 splits. Neither got a scholarship and we looked everywhere. One went to a no name mid major in town and the other in NY state.
Slowapriringcollegiate wrote:
. . . Also, unrelated but say the split didn’t matter, if I get big drops on my times senior year, would it make a difference in my chances, even if it’s later on?
There are too many variables to give a blanket response, but to cover two possible scenarios:
1. If you are hoping to get scholarship money it is unlikely that you'll find much for next year if you have a late update with a time that would otherwise have gotten over the bar for scholarship. If you really need scholarship money and you have a great outdoor season, you can bide your time in community college and try again next year (or walk on and hope for the best as a sophomore . . . or transfer . . .).
2. If you are hoping to get a bump to the top of the pile of borderline applications in the regular review process with a good word from the coach, you can absolutely send him/her an update in the winter or even very early spring, tell them you would love to walk on to the team, and ask if they will send a note to the admissions office if they think you could contribute.
In any case, there's no harm in trying. You should be training hard right now and registering for fast indoor meets in the open 800 (unattached, if necessary).
Slowapriringcollegiate wrote:
Also, unrelated but say the split didn’t matter, if I get big drops on my times senior year, would it make a difference in my chances, even if it’s later on?
You already know the answer.
No... split times don't matter to coaches.
Yes... a big drop your senior year would make a difference.
Slowapriringcollegiate wrote:
So I have a difference of about 3.xx seconds between my 4x8 and my open 8 prs my junior year, which (I feel) is pretty substantial difference for recruiting, since I don’t have many other events to back it up. Thing is, I’ve heard that college coaches don’t really care for relay splits due to them being unreliable, but would they accept it if I have video evidence that I did it?
Also, unrelated but say the split didn’t matter, if I get big drops on my times senior year, would it make a difference in my chances, even if it’s later on?
You still need to learn how to run fast in an open event whether that time is legitimate or not. Especially since there's no 4x8 in real college.
Here's a clue for you... coaches will accept anything they feel like accepting... recruiting isn't some exact science.