Womens Steroid Era alert: Shericka knocking on door of 200M record but 400M & 800M still look obscenely safe.

NYDCRunner1 wrote:

Ghost of Viktor Bryzhin wrote:

In the 80's there was a running joke in the gym I went to that she could have entered Ms. Olympia and placed highly if she wanted to.

She was training for a largely cardio event with an element of anaerobic activity and was built like a tank.

It amazes me she is still above grounding breathing clean air...

Is that Steve Ovett or Seb Coe in that link?

jeff tallon wrote:

even jarmila is still less muscled than so many of todays women athletes.

zvxcxvc wrote:

The funny thing is that you'd think that steroids would have helped the Eastern European dopers more in the power events of 100-200-400 and weights than the 800m.

Ghost of Viktor Bryzhin wrote:

jeff tallon wrote:

even jarmila is still less muscled than so many of todays women athletes.

Name me one female 400m runner who is more muscular than her? Let alone a 800m runner. She literally looks like a pumped up musclebound Roger Daltry clone out on the track.

dmb wrote:

Different eras, different types of doping. You didn’t have the cream and the clear back then. Gene therapy was in a Michael Chrichton novel only. EPO was being isolated in a lab. Insulin was just for diabetics.

There were no TRT or aging clinics. Andro was readily available.

Your colleagues may or may not have been able to dope with impunity, but what they had was insignificant by comparison to today, far less widespread, and much more dangerous.

bcvb wrote:

Hopefully Naser comes back at Budapest next year and runs 47.5 WR. Then that will inspire many women to chase the 800 m WR.

NYDCRunner1 wrote:

jeff tallon wrote:

Or perhaps it is a case that as training has evolved and many sprinters realize the benefits of weight training and hit the gym to get stronger and thus develop a more muscular physicality

prorunner123 wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

The former head of WADA David Howman says doping always remains ahead of efforts to catch the dopers. He says doping is "more sophisticated" than antidoping. That is the main difference today from doping in yesteryear - it is immeasurably more sophisticated, which means more efficient, more targeted, more subtle and harder to detect - in some cases virtually impossible. It is basically game-over for clean sport. We can see it at these world championships - the drugs are winning.

Doping leaves cues such as weird looking bloodwork(off the charts high hemoglobin for example), overdeveloped muscles, deepened voice, etc...

If WADA wanted they could find the dopers.

prorunner123 wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

The former head of WADA David Howman says doping always remains ahead of efforts to catch the dopers. He says doping is "more sophisticated" than antidoping. That is the main difference today from doping in yesteryear - it is immeasurably more sophisticated, which means more efficient, more targeted, more subtle and harder to detect - in some cases virtually impossible. It is basically game-over for clean sport. We can see it at these world championships - the drugs are winning.

Doping leaves cues such as weird looking bloodwork(off the charts high hemoglobin for example), overdeveloped muscles, deepened voice, etc...

If WADA wanted they could find the dopers.

casual obsever wrote:

This is also true for the men, btw.

1500 and above: no 80s times appear in the top-5, for whatever reason.

World cheapskate Anti Doping A wrote:

prorunner123 wrote:

Doping leaves cues such as weird looking bloodwork(off the charts high hemoglobin for example), overdeveloped muscles, deepened voice, etc...

If WADA wanted they could find the dopers.

The problem is there isn't enough out of competition testing. There is no reason athletes near a world record as well as championship finalists shouldn't be tested multiple times a month, maybe even daily. Something like 100 tests a year for these athletes would help uncover the cheats.