This just removed all doubt that Ivies are closer to D3 than D1, in reality. Glorified intramurals.
I'd say more like NAIA. Many years the NAIA cross-country champion could be an All-American in D1, but the final NAIA All-American would have to fight hard to be AA in D3, or might not even be capable of AA in D3 some years. The Ivies still get some athletes who can reach the top of D1 (Abbey D'Agostino, for example), but also get tons of competitors who wouldn't otherwise sniff D1. (Of course, sports aren't the main reason people go Ivy... usually it's because their dad went to the same Ivy!)
Back in the day, maybe 1990 or so I visited my friend who was attending Columbia University in NYC. We were at the gym and the men's basketball team was practicing. For real they were like a decent high school team in a white suburban community. Nothing wrong with that, but D1? Give me a break.
Back in the day, maybe 1990 or so I visited my friend who was attending Columbia University in NYC. We were at the gym and the men's basketball team was practicing. For real they were like a decent high school team in a white suburban community. Nothing wrong with that, but D1? Give me a break.
2 years before that fateful visit to NYC, Dartmouth, with no athletic scholarships and a student body of just 4000 people, took second at NCAA D1 XC. For the second year in a row. So there’s that.
Back in the day, maybe 1990 or so I visited my friend who was attending Columbia University in NYC. We were at the gym and the men's basketball team was practicing. For real they were like a decent high school team in a white suburban community. Nothing wrong with that, but D1? Give me a break.
When I was in college, the Ivies were even D1-A in football. I think it was after the 1981 season that they got booted down to 1-AA against their will.