Tinman elite goes home devastated from 2022 World Indoors. Gusman & Parsons eliminated in 3k + USATF didn't enter Hunter

LappedMiler wrote:

This ongoing beyatchfest against TME is pathetic. It's not gonna stop, though, because certain web honchos love their money coming in from "hits". Which means that the same incredibly lame "mommy" and "Drew Hunter will never run well again" and "TME sucks" comments won't stop anytime soon! Naturally, those same beyatches will respond to this posting. They have to; it's in their blood, after all.

TME runners, as good as they are - and WHO AMONG US WOULD NOT WANT TO RUN THEIR TIMES? - are just not at the top of the heap currently. Do they suck? HELL no!! They're still a bunch of tremendously fast athletes, and I'm more than willing to acknowledge such superior runners (all of whom would crush me at any distance). Despite all the snot blown in their direction on this forum, they have made a huge difference in T&F in America, at least, due to their gear, and their chosen philosophy of transparency, and their charter to meet and greet and encourage - in a sport where enthusiasm has been waning for ages. Remember when track used to be on the cover of Sports Illustrated? Remember when the indoor winter meets were huge affairs? Those days are gone, but the TME boys have revved up a love of the sport for so many, not just teens - despite being mostly second-tier runners, so far, and maybe always.

There are a handful of alpha bad boys who are jerks in life and who will gladly go out of their way to anonymously smear TME on this message board. Some of them, not all of them, are wannabes, too - not ELITE, or not yet ELITE - a word they love to overuse in their mudslinging. There are elite jerks, too, even sub-4:00 schmucks, who are jerks even when not slamming TME.

Too bad the greats at Bowerman TC are so mysterious. They owe us nothing, of course, but transparency, or at least a little more engagement with the fanbase ain't a bad thing, by and large.

Do you really believe that TME’s friendly interaction with one another is any different than on any other club? It's probably fairly similar, and I'm sure it's not quite as rosy as it seems, at times, on TME. Do you really think they’re pathetic human animals? Well, they ARE friends - I'll believe that - and that’s GREAT, even if it doesn’t ultimately translate into faster times. They have enthusiastic experiences that will be positive benefits for the rest of their lives.

I remember reading Frank Shorter’s opinion that Steve Prefontaine, at least for the earlier part of his elite career, chose to view his competitors as his bitter enemies. That must have been a lot of fun to be around! Yeah, that anger may have fueled him on to some faster times, but the TME brotherhood is pretty effin’ fantastic and is the goal of most teams – to have fun despite the hard work involved.

Athletes change coaches all the time. AND NO DOUBT WE DON’T KNOW SQUAT ABOUT THE WAYS TME’S FORMER COACH VIOLATED HIS CONTRACT AND DESERVED MUCH OF WHAT HAPPENED. Let’s see what he does in the future. If he's the great coach others
(many of the same people who stabbed him in the back before "the fall") claim , his charges will rise to the top. People do make mistakes, and that applies to young pro runners in Boulder, CO, so possibly the TME boys have their regrets. But, anyway, “that was then, this is now”. And, again, we, the public, don’t know anything much about what went down, and we shouldn’t for a minute believe the bull spewed by the biased Mrs. Ex-coach and by all the TME haters. NOBODY knows except those on TME and a certain ex-coach.

If you want to believe that Bigfoot just ran a sub-4 mile, then you will.

Drew Hunter may NEVER be the great American runner so many wish he was, or would be.

Reed Fischer’s body is never going to give him the running gait of [fill in the blank with your favorite running great].

Joan Hunter may not succeed in getting all these TME runners to be BTC’s main rival.

Beyatches who anonymously snipe at the TME runners are typically always gonna be beyatches. Ever been to your high school 20th reunion and learned that the a-hole from high school is still an a-hole? That will apply to a fair number of the anti-TME posters here! Some of those a-holes are or were great athletes, who were embraced by their teammates because they were fun to be with, despite faults. Not everyone – and that applies to TME – has to be a saint, you know.

Ugh…and on and on it goes. Let’s see how soon before the next Tinman posting becomes a popular multi-page thread on LRC. By the way, I think I’ll start a thread on how Drew Hunter’s toejam has not been cleaned by his mommy, causing bad form, slow times, and injury. LRC honchos won’t remove the thread, either, because, like the Kardashian, Prince Harry, and LGBT stories, any TMH headline brings in viewers. Money makes some people very, very happy.

LappedMiler wrote:

This ongoing beyatchfest against TME is pathetic. It's not gonna stop, though, because certain web honchos love their money coming in from "hits". Which means that the same incredibly lame "mommy" and "Drew Hunter will never run well again" and "TME sucks" comments won't stop anytime soon! Naturally, those same beyatches will respond to this posting. They have to; it's in their blood, after all.

TME runners, as good as they are - and WHO AMONG US WOULD NOT WANT TO RUN THEIR TIMES? - are just not at the top of the heap currently. Do they suck? HELL no!! They're still a bunch of tremendously fast athletes, and I'm more than willing to acknowledge such superior runners (all of whom would crush me at any distance). Despite all the snot blown in their direction on this forum, they have made a huge difference in T&F in America, at least, due to their gear, and their chosen philosophy of transparency, and their charter to meet and greet and encourage - in a sport where enthusiasm has been waning for ages. Remember when track used to be on the cover of Sports Illustrated? Remember when the indoor winter meets were huge affairs? Those days are gone, but the TME boys have revved up a love of the sport for so many, not just teens - despite being mostly second-tier runners, so far, and maybe always.

There are a handful of alpha bad boys who are jerks in life and who will gladly go out of their way to anonymously smear TME on this message board. Some of them, not all of them, are wannabes, too - not ELITE, or not yet ELITE - a word they love to overuse in their mudslinging. There are elite jerks, too, even sub-4:00 schmucks, who are jerks even when not slamming TME.

Too bad the greats at Bowerman TC are so mysterious. They owe us nothing, of course, but transparency, or at least a little more engagement with the fanbase ain't a bad thing, by and large.

Do you really believe that TME’s friendly interaction with one another is any different than on any other club? It's probably fairly similar, and I'm sure it's not quite as rosy as it seems, at times, on TME. Do you really think they’re pathetic human animals? Well, they ARE friends - I'll believe that - and that’s GREAT, even if it doesn’t ultimately translate into faster times. They have enthusiastic experiences that will be positive benefits for the rest of their lives.

I remember reading Frank Shorter’s opinion that Steve Prefontaine, at least for the earlier part of his elite career, chose to view his competitors as his bitter enemies. That must have been a lot of fun to be around! Yeah, that anger may have fueled him on to some faster times, but the TME brotherhood is pretty effin’ fantastic and is the goal of most teams – to have fun despite the hard work involved.

Athletes change coaches all the time. AND NO DOUBT WE DON’T KNOW SQUAT ABOUT THE WAYS TME’S FORMER COACH VIOLATED HIS CONTRACT AND DESERVED MUCH OF WHAT HAPPENED. Let’s see what he does in the future. If he's the great coach others
(many of the same people who stabbed him in the back before "the fall") claim , his charges will rise to the top. People do make mistakes, and that applies to young pro runners in Boulder, CO, so possibly the TME boys have their regrets. But, anyway, “that was then, this is now”. And, again, we, the public, don’t know anything much about what went down, and we shouldn’t for a minute believe the bull spewed by the biased Mrs. Ex-coach and by all the TME haters. NOBODY knows except those on TME and a certain ex-coach.

If you want to believe that Bigfoot just ran a sub-4 mile, then you will.

Drew Hunter may NEVER be the great American runner so many wish he was, or would be.

Reed Fischer’s body is never going to give him the running gait of [fill in the blank with your favorite running great].

Joan Hunter may not succeed in getting all these TME runners to be BTC’s main rival.

Beyatches who anonymously snipe at the TME runners are typically always gonna be beyatches. Ever been to your high school 20th reunion and learned that the a-hole from high school is still an a-hole? That will apply to a fair number of the anti-TME posters here! Some of those a-holes are or were great athletes, who were embraced by their teammates because they were fun to be with, despite faults. Not everyone – and that applies to TME – has to be a saint, you know.

Ugh…and on and on it goes. Let’s see how soon before the next Tinman posting becomes a popular multi-page thread on LRC. By the way, I think I’ll start a thread on how Drew Hunter’s toejam has not been cleaned by his mommy, causing bad form, slow times, and injury. LRC honchos won’t remove the thread, either, because, like the Kardashian, Prince Harry, and LGBT stories, any TMH headline brings in viewers. Money makes some people very, very happy.

LappedMiler wrote:

This ongoing beyatchfest against TME is pathetic. It's not gonna stop, though, because certain web honchos love their money coming in from "hits". Which means that the same incredibly lame "mommy" and "Drew Hunter will never run well again" and "TME sucks" comments won't stop anytime soon! Naturally, those same beyatches will respond to this posting. They have to; it's in their blood, after all.

TME runners, as good as they are - and WHO AMONG US WOULD NOT WANT TO RUN THEIR TIMES? - are just not at the top of the heap currently. Do they suck? HELL no!! They're still a bunch of tremendously fast athletes, and I'm more than willing to acknowledge such superior runners (all of whom would crush me at any distance). Despite all the snot blown in their direction on this forum, they have made a huge difference in T&F in America, at least, due to their gear, and their chosen philosophy of transparency, and their charter to meet and greet and encourage - in a sport where enthusiasm has been waning for ages. Remember when track used to be on the cover of Sports Illustrated? Remember when the indoor winter meets were huge affairs? Those days are gone, but the TME boys have revved up a love of the sport for so many, not just teens - despite being mostly second-tier runners, so far, and maybe always.

There are a handful of alpha bad boys who are jerks in life and who will gladly go out of their way to anonymously smear TME on this message board. Some of them, not all of them, are wannabes, too - not ELITE, or not yet ELITE - a word they love to overuse in their mudslinging. There are elite jerks, too, even sub-4:00 schmucks, who are jerks even when not slamming TME.

Too bad the greats at Bowerman TC are so mysterious. They owe us nothing, of course, but transparency, or at least a little more engagement with the fanbase ain't a bad thing, by and large.

Do you really believe that TME’s friendly interaction with one another is any different than on any other club? It's probably fairly similar, and I'm sure it's not quite as rosy as it seems, at times, on TME. Do you really think they’re pathetic human animals? Well, they ARE friends - I'll believe that - and that’s GREAT, even if it doesn’t ultimately translate into faster times. They have enthusiastic experiences that will be positive benefits for the rest of their lives.

I remember reading Frank Shorter’s opinion that Steve Prefontaine, at least for the earlier part of his elite career, chose to view his competitors as his bitter enemies. That must have been a lot of fun to be around! Yeah, that anger may have fueled him on to some faster times, but the TME brotherhood is pretty effin’ fantastic and is the goal of most teams – to have fun despite the hard work involved.

Athletes change coaches all the time. AND NO DOUBT WE DON’T KNOW SQUAT ABOUT THE WAYS TME’S FORMER COACH VIOLATED HIS CONTRACT AND DESERVED MUCH OF WHAT HAPPENED. Let’s see what he does in the future. If he's the great coach others
(many of the same people who stabbed him in the back before "the fall") claim , his charges will rise to the top. People do make mistakes, and that applies to young pro runners in Boulder, CO, so possibly the TME boys have their regrets. But, anyway, “that was then, this is now”. And, again, we, the public, don’t know anything much about what went down, and we shouldn’t for a minute believe the bull spewed by the biased Mrs. Ex-coach and by all the TME haters. NOBODY knows except those on TME and a certain ex-coach.

If you want to believe that Bigfoot just ran a sub-4 mile, then you will.

Drew Hunter may NEVER be the great American runner so many wish he was, or would be.

Reed Fischer’s body is never going to give him the running gait of [fill in the blank with your favorite running great].

Joan Hunter may not succeed in getting all these TME runners to be BTC’s main rival.

Beyatches who anonymously snipe at the TME runners are typically always gonna be beyatches. Ever been to your high school 20th reunion and learned that the a-hole from high school is still an a-hole? That will apply to a fair number of the anti-TME posters here! Some of those a-holes are or were great athletes, who were embraced by their teammates because they were fun to be with, despite faults. Not everyone – and that applies to TME – has to be a saint, you know.

Ugh…and on and on it goes. Let’s see how soon before the next Tinman posting becomes a popular multi-page thread on LRC. By the way, I think I’ll start a thread on how Drew Hunter’s toejam has not been cleaned by his mommy, causing bad form, slow times, and injury. LRC honchos won’t remove the thread, either, because, like the Kardashian, Prince Harry, and LGBT stories, any TMH headline brings in viewers. Money makes some people very, very happy.

LappedMiler wrote:

This ongoing beyatchfest against TME is pathetic. It's not gonna stop, though, because certain web honchos love their money coming in from "hits". Which means that the same incredibly lame "mommy" and "Drew Hunter will never run well again" and "TME sucks" comments won't stop anytime soon! Naturally, those same beyatches will respond to this posting. They have to; it's in their blood, after all.

TME runners, as good as they are - and WHO AMONG US WOULD NOT WANT TO RUN THEIR TIMES? - are just not at the top of the heap currently. Do they suck? HELL no!! They're still a bunch of tremendously fast athletes, and I'm more than willing to acknowledge such superior runners (all of whom would crush me at any distance). Despite all the snot blown in their direction on this forum, they have made a huge difference in T&F in America, at least, due to their gear, and their chosen philosophy of transparency, and their charter to meet and greet and encourage - in a sport where enthusiasm has been waning for ages. Remember when track used to be on the cover of Sports Illustrated? Remember when the indoor winter meets were huge affairs? Those days are gone, but the TME boys have revved up a love of the sport for so many, not just teens - despite being mostly second-tier runners, so far, and maybe always.

There are a handful of alpha bad boys who are jerks in life and who will gladly go out of their way to anonymously smear TME on this message board. Some of them, not all of them, are wannabes, too - not ELITE, or not yet ELITE - a word they love to overuse in their mudslinging. There are elite jerks, too, even sub-4:00 schmucks, who are jerks even when not slamming TME.

Too bad the greats at Bowerman TC are so mysterious. They owe us nothing, of course, but transparency, or at least a little more engagement with the fanbase ain't a bad thing, by and large.

Do you really believe that TME’s friendly interaction with one another is any different than on any other club? It's probably fairly similar, and I'm sure it's not quite as rosy as it seems, at times, on TME. Do you really think they’re pathetic human animals? Well, they ARE friends - I'll believe that - and that’s GREAT, even if it doesn’t ultimately translate into faster times. They have enthusiastic experiences that will be positive benefits for the rest of their lives.

I remember reading Frank Shorter’s opinion that Steve Prefontaine, at least for the earlier part of his elite career, chose to view his competitors as his bitter enemies. That must have been a lot of fun to be around! Yeah, that anger may have fueled him on to some faster times, but the TME brotherhood is pretty effin’ fantastic and is the goal of most teams – to have fun despite the hard work involved.

Athletes change coaches all the time. AND NO DOUBT WE DON’T KNOW SQUAT ABOUT THE WAYS TME’S FORMER COACH VIOLATED HIS CONTRACT AND DESERVED MUCH OF WHAT HAPPENED. Let’s see what he does in the future. If he's the great coach others
(many of the same people who stabbed him in the back before "the fall") claim , his charges will rise to the top. People do make mistakes, and that applies to young pro runners in Boulder, CO, so possibly the TME boys have their regrets. But, anyway, “that was then, this is now”. And, again, we, the public, don’t know anything much about what went down, and we shouldn’t for a minute believe the bull spewed by the biased Mrs. Ex-coach and by all the TME haters. NOBODY knows except those on TME and a certain ex-coach.

If you want to believe that Bigfoot just ran a sub-4 mile, then you will.

Drew Hunter may NEVER be the great American runner so many wish he was, or would be.

Reed Fischer’s body is never going to give him the running gait of [fill in the blank with your favorite running great].

Joan Hunter may not succeed in getting all these TME runners to be BTC’s main rival.

Beyatches who anonymously snipe at the TME runners are typically always gonna be beyatches. Ever been to your high school 20th reunion and learned that the a-hole from high school is still an a-hole? That will apply to a fair number of the anti-TME posters here! Some of those a-holes are or were great athletes, who were embraced by their teammates because they were fun to be with, despite faults. Not everyone – and that applies to TME – has to be a saint, you know.

Ugh…and on and on it goes. Let’s see how soon before the next Tinman posting becomes a popular multi-page thread on LRC. By the way, I think I’ll start a thread on how Drew Hunter’s toejam has not been cleaned by his mommy, causing bad form, slow times, and injury. LRC honchos won’t remove the thread, either, because, like the Kardashian, Prince Harry, and LGBT stories, any TMH headline brings in viewers. Money makes some people very, very happy.

LappedMiler wrote:

This ongoing beyatchfest against TME is pathetic. It's not gonna stop, though, because certain web honchos love their money coming in from "hits". Which means that the same incredibly lame "mommy" and "Drew Hunter will never run well again" and "TME sucks" comments won't stop anytime soon! Naturally, those same beyatches will respond to this posting. They have to; it's in their blood, after all.

TME runners, as good as they are - and WHO AMONG US WOULD NOT WANT TO RUN THEIR TIMES? - are just not at the top of the heap currently. Do they suck? HELL no!! They're still a bunch of tremendously fast athletes, and I'm more than willing to acknowledge such superior runners (all of whom would crush me at any distance). Despite all the snot blown in their direction on this forum, they have made a huge difference in T&F in America, at least, due to their gear, and their chosen philosophy of transparency, and their charter to meet and greet and encourage - in a sport where enthusiasm has been waning for ages. Remember when track used to be on the cover of Sports Illustrated? Remember when the indoor winter meets were huge affairs? Those days are gone, but the TME boys have revved up a love of the sport for so many, not just teens - despite being mostly second-tier runners, so far, and maybe always.

There are a handful of alpha bad boys who are jerks in life and who will gladly go out of their way to anonymously smear TME on this message board. Some of them, not all of them, are wannabes, too - not ELITE, or not yet ELITE - a word they love to overuse in their mudslinging. There are elite jerks, too, even sub-4:00 schmucks, who are jerks even when not slamming TME.

Too bad the greats at Bowerman TC are so mysterious. They owe us nothing, of course, but transparency, or at least a little more engagement with the fanbase ain't a bad thing, by and large.

Do you really believe that TME’s friendly interaction with one another is any different than on any other club? It's probably fairly similar, and I'm sure it's not quite as rosy as it seems, at times, on TME. Do you really think they’re pathetic human animals? Well, they ARE friends - I'll believe that - and that’s GREAT, even if it doesn’t ultimately translate into faster times. They have enthusiastic experiences that will be positive benefits for the rest of their lives.

I remember reading Frank Shorter’s opinion that Steve Prefontaine, at least for the earlier part of his elite career, chose to view his competitors as his bitter enemies. That must have been a lot of fun to be around! Yeah, that anger may have fueled him on to some faster times, but the TME brotherhood is pretty effin’ fantastic and is the goal of most teams – to have fun despite the hard work involved.

Athletes change coaches all the time. AND NO DOUBT WE DON’T KNOW SQUAT ABOUT THE WAYS TME’S FORMER COACH VIOLATED HIS CONTRACT AND DESERVED MUCH OF WHAT HAPPENED. Let’s see what he does in the future. If he's the great coach others
(many of the same people who stabbed him in the back before "the fall") claim , his charges will rise to the top. People do make mistakes, and that applies to young pro runners in Boulder, CO, so possibly the TME boys have their regrets. But, anyway, “that was then, this is now”. And, again, we, the public, don’t know anything much about what went down, and we shouldn’t for a minute believe the bull spewed by the biased Mrs. Ex-coach and by all the TME haters. NOBODY knows except those on TME and a certain ex-coach.

If you want to believe that Bigfoot just ran a sub-4 mile, then you will.

Drew Hunter may NEVER be the great American runner so many wish he was, or would be.

Reed Fischer’s body is never going to give him the running gait of [fill in the blank with your favorite running great].

Joan Hunter may not succeed in getting all these TME runners to be BTC’s main rival.

Beyatches who anonymously snipe at the TME runners are typically always gonna be beyatches. Ever been to your high school 20th reunion and learned that the a-hole from high school is still an a-hole? That will apply to a fair number of the anti-TME posters here! Some of those a-holes are or were great athletes, who were embraced by their teammates because they were fun to be with, despite faults. Not everyone – and that applies to TME – has to be a saint, you know.

Ugh…and on and on it goes. Let’s see how soon before the next Tinman posting becomes a popular multi-page thread on LRC. By the way, I think I’ll start a thread on how Drew Hunter’s toejam has not been cleaned by his mommy, causing bad form, slow times, and injury. LRC honchos won’t remove the thread, either, because, like the Kardashian, Prince Harry, and LGBT stories, any TMH headline brings in viewers. Money makes some people very, very happy.