Sport is not that important. Especially ex sport's people.
It was pointed out the other day that it won't be long before Michael Jordan isn't discussed in the GOAT discussions. No one talks about Kareem, or Wilt anymore.
Sorry. All this discussion about hs stars and college records, is all temporary distraction.
Some people can't even spell Gatlin on this thread.
Haven't read this yet but are you kidding? What is his legacy? One of the greatest sprinters of our era. 2nd to Bolt.
A great sprinter, one of the best of his generation.
Why would his legacy be in doubt? He served his ban, he performed when it mattered.
Greg, you get it. I agree with you 100% here. Also, don't you think it's weird that Rojo supports Shelby Houlihan, who refuses to apologize, but not Gaitlin, who apologizes OVER AND OVER AND OVER
It's curious that Gatlin, who's out of the picture, is a black man LRC can crucify after they've spent months unapologetically defending white female Houlihan.
I didn't know about Rojo's stance on Houliahan but that's an interesting point.
He's are sympathetic because he is friends with Jerry. The BroJos used to have a hard line against dopers until she got popped, then their tune changed. Hypocrisy in it's truest form.
but the point is that Houlihan is a cheater and LetsRun supports her. So by that logic they should support Gaitlin
Cas never found her a cheater.
CAS doesn't need to prove intent (aka, declaring them "a cheater") - the rule is you can't have banned substances in your body unless you have a TUE. Leniency is granted if you can prove or provide enough evidence that it most likely got into your body inadvertently or factors beyond your control. She proved neither.
To those not really into track he will be known as just another cheater but to those of us who are into this stuff here we have an all time great sprinter one of the best ever. So that is who he is to me. These best 100/200 combo USA sprinter.
CAS doesn't need to prove intent (aka, declaring them "a cheater") - the rule is you can't have banned substances in your body unless you have a TUE. Leniency is granted if you can prove or provide enough evidence that it most likely got into your body inadvertently or factors beyond your control. She proved neither.
So, exactly, CAS never found her guilty of cheating.
For some reason I always think of his interaction with wejo at the press conference. Didn't Gatlin say something like "What are you, a history major?" when wejo asked about old drug suspensions/suspicions. And wejo responded in the affirmative.
To those not really into track he will be known as just another cheater but to those of us who are into this stuff here we have an all time great sprinter one of the best ever. So that is who he is to me. These best 100/200 combo USA sprinter.
CAS doesn't need to prove intent (aka, declaring them "a cheater") - the rule is you can't have banned substances in your body unless you have a TUE. Leniency is granted if you can prove or provide enough evidence that it most likely got into your body inadvertently or factors beyond your control. She proved neither.
So, exactly, CAS never found her guilty of cheating.
They found her guilty of having a prohibitive substance in her body that is known to enhance performance. Interpret that as you will.
He's not very smart. He's certainly not articulate. He can't make much of a case for himself. He's not charismatic. He's kind of anti-charismatic. Such people have limited impact on the public consciousness.
ANY runner who involved him or herself in PEDs is forever labeled a cheater. People make mistakes, and I'm willing to forgive, but he's still a cheater...and he hasn't been cancelled either, so no need to bring that up.
We only need to name busted athletes, and you know what you immediately think:
Eddy Hellebuyck
Ben Johnson
Lance Armstrong
Marion Jones
Mark McQwire
Barry Bonds
Cheating is an orchestrated conscious decision. It wasn't a brief meltdown in a restaurant. Cheaters are deserving of the label "cheater" forever.
I read the entire article. Gault is a solid writer. I was shocked to learn how many suspicious people Gatlin has been around throughout his career.
Regardless, he served his bans. He was obviously tested again and again yet came back with clean tests after his bans.
If I hang out with OJ Simpson it doesn't make me a double murderer.
Maybe Gatlin could have chosen better company but it's all irrelevant. What matters is that he performed admirably at an advanced age.
Letsrun is entitled to their view. They don't speak for everyone. If you ask me about Gatlin's career I'd say he was a great sprinter.
Letsrun could have just as easily spun the article as 'Gatlin solidifies legacy as one of the greatest sprinters ever' but chose to go a different path.
This is an opinion piece. Gatlin's results aren't opinion pieces, they speak for themselves.
Sport is not that important. Especially ex sport's people.
It was pointed out the other day that it won't be long before Michael Jordan isn't discussed in the GOAT discussions. No one talks about Kareem, or Wilt anymore.
Sorry. All this discussion about hs stars and college records, is all temporary distraction.
Some people can't even spell Gatlin on this thread.
Enjoy it
Wilt was by far the greatest player of all time. A man amongst boys out there. People argue that it was because there were no other people his size.So what? That would be like if an 8'2" guy came along today that could run an 800 in 1:45 with a 60" verticle. He would dominate the NBA too.
Greg, you get it. I agree with you 100% here. Also, don't you think it's weird that Rojo supports Shelby Houlihan, who refuses to apologize, but not Gaitlin, who apologizes OVER AND OVER AND OVER
It's curious that Gatlin, who's out of the picture, is a black man LRC can crucify after they've spent months unapologetically defending white female Houlihan.
Ridiculous. The owners of LRC are not racist. You shouldn’t assume that just Gatlin is black and Houlihan is a honkey.
Haven't read this yet but are you kidding? What is his legacy? One of the greatest sprinters of our era. 2nd to Bolt.
A great sprinter, one of the best of his generation.
Why would his legacy be in doubt? He served his ban, he performed when it mattered.
His legacy is that of a cheater. Once a cheater always a cheater. Like having a scarlet letter on your forehead. You can never undo your cheating. Shelby H. can come back and break 10 WRs but she will be forever known as an outright cheater. Nothing else. Ben Johnson - a cheater. Lance Armstrong - a cheater. Roger Clemens - a cheater. The bell has been rung. You can't unring a bell.
So you hold the same standard for the New England Patriots and Tom Brady?
In spring 2007 I was a track coach at Leavenworth High. At the KU relays, Head coach Tamara Strano lectured him on racing on his own talents next time. He was very polite, admitted he was wrong, spoke with the girls. I was impressed with him.