Schizophrenia is a psychological disorder which involves delusions and faulty perceptions of the world. Those inflicted often hear voices in their head and have delusions of grandeur. A lot of schizophrinics seem to believe they are Jesus... actually fits Flag well, no?
Legalizit- I thought you were just a pot-head. Is there more to it than that?
Sorry legalizit, I couldn't find the post--give a link and I will read it all.
I agree with your aging assessment--for the majority that is true. And yes--schizophrenics are often very intellectual and very misunderstood. Flagpole definitely gets first place from what I have seen--Jason gets a strong second--I might should have third place--5 months ago I woud have definitely been in first place for about a month. I am still recovering--I am not out of the woods yet--but at least I am much futher along. Reading about John Nash helped me a lot. I never had it that bad--but I could relate to what he went through very well. He recovered by the way w/o any outside help--which is the case with me too. I do not, however, think a person becomes more sz as they get more educated--it just turns out that way sometimes on account of schizophrenia eventually grabbing you by the back of your hair and pulling you back--subsequently.
The voices in the head or illusions may or may not happen--I kept having visions which I can get in a trance like state at just about any time. I didn't really have any voices or hallucinated--but I kept getting visions that I had to purposely block out (quit thinking about)--and it was hard to do. Once one vision came to mind--if I concentrated on anything--another vision would take itsplace--all relating to what I was thinking about. Some of them toward the end were scary. I kept seeing letters (I don't want to describe it).
Catman, haha thats some interesting stuff but I think just looking to clebraty examples might be a little misleading. As far as I know about schizophrenics (which ill be the first to admit is not a huge amount) they are not overly intelligent people or vica versa they are just people who are inflicted with a genetic ailment. Im pretty sure it is very rare, and often overdiagnosed. If you are seeing visions you should most definatly be seeing counseling of some sort. It could be a chemical problem induced by drugs or lack of sleep? I have no idea but Im sure a proffesional would. Your ideas are pretty cool, although I think you may be over empasizing the sexual aspect of it. Howard Hughes had bigger problems then his sexual preferances. Michel Jackson might be a diffrent story however. anyways now im rambling but seriously, im my opinion Visions = possible problem so unless your joking or high it might not be a bad idea to get checked out. Later,
Sean
Ps you ever read stephen king, the way he describes hallucinations is so cool. Like in Insomnia and Black house.
Yes--I went to see a shrink--got some meds--the meds just stop me from being tense. I do not have visions that I have to block out any more and don't see myself ever getting them again like I did--and I only take meds when I can't sleep usually. Sleep depravation would definitely bring on more visions--but it would do that in anybody. Well sz can hit anybody no matter what level of intelligence--but it seems to almost always hit people of the highest level of intelligence. But there is no real coorelation there. I know people who are very stupid that are sz. When I say they are sz--I am separating my definitions. I am talking about medically sz--as separate from my theory that says everyone is sz because of the separation of the hemispheres. I think the chemical imbalance theory is full of shit. It just happens that some people who are chemically imbalanced are also sz--and books on the subject back me up here almost completely. That is an older theory that has since been disproven in most people's minds. No--I don't read Stephen King--those books are just for females.
ours is http://www.thepantheon.org
umm...i have a site, but it has nothing to do with running. at all. its actually about my work, that has nothing to do with running. would it be worth putting up?????
its just shameless (silly) self promotion.
yeah, post whatever you want. it's interesting to get to know posters.
can we at least try to be nice and not post it under the lets "talk about how ugly or whatnot" someone is? I just looked at it, definately NO running links on it.
The site project :
i may regret this later....
http://www.rachie-mosteller.com
So much for anonymity. again, has nothing to do with running. just stuff for work and my friends.
legalizit wrote:
Sczhizophrenia is a certain type of manifestation of the mind. It certainly makes sense that it becomes more pronounced in age, regardless of the sport the person is involved in, though individual sports allow for one to go further into their mind. Ultimately, schizo people are misunderstood, and as that persons intellect develops so does the misunderstanding and their ability to function in society. Personally, i'm really offended you gave the nod to flagpole as being the most schizo, I feel i'm much more worthy of this praise. Did you not read my training outline in the thread "Alternative approach to training."
Actually, schizophrenic breaks happen most commonly in late adolescence and early adulthood. The diagnostic criteria even requires that a person be fairly young, after the age of 45 (or so) you can't be diagnosed as schizophrenic following an initial break regardless of symptoms. And schizophrenics tend to mellow, though "burn out" is the commonly used term, as they age, that is the symtoms are less acute than at earlier ages.
The seeming strangeness of runners, especially serious competitive ones probably has more to do with immersion in a subculture that is different from the main culture. I've always been regarded as odd when working at mental health clinics because I'd run at my lunch hour rather than eat with co-workers, and was rarely available for drinks after work as I'd have a second session to do. If you have to refuse social engagements with friends at the weekend because the engagement conflicts with your long run, they'll see you as a bit odd and you'll probably agree to some degree because compared to the friends, you are odd. Eventually you'll lose a lot of self-consciousness about this and become even more removed from the mainstream.
I do find it funny how this thread became the "letsrun poster websites AND schizo discussion" thread :) Is that implying something about us as a group?
So let me get this straight, your name isn't Mary??
Oh well, if not don't worry... as HRE pointed out, things will level out for you in a few years.
hey, this looks like a good running website
Wow! You guys are the hottest team around!
how does catman type with his straightjacket on?
my site has little to do with running as of yet but I'm planning on incorporating an online training journal for myself and anybody who actually cares to look...
right now it's mainly my business and portfolio -
but if you click on the personal profile there's some running pics and race results
HRE everything you said is right--but there is a tendancy for those who have graduated high school to grow into having more acute symptons as they age. Yeah--but the 45 and beyond age brackett would mellow out much more, as you said. Still John Nash held onto his acute sz well past 45--I am sure the common bag lady types--the guy who kidnapped Elizabeth Smart and other like homeless people are not a group often studied. So, sz may have a longevity not hetetofore perceived by professionals. Really severe sz would not make it to 45 anyway in many cases--or else they would be spending life in prison somewhere.
my name is mary, but only on tuesdays. i keep it this way to throw off "my real" identity...that is, reporter by day. Crime fighter by night.