How hard is she running relative to her current ability? I agree that back-to-back marathon races is risky, but if they're really just brisk 26.2 mile long runs, I don't think there's much to worry about. Almost certainly suboptimal for training, but that's hardly a concern for her now.
I will respectfully disagree - - -
They are really "just brisk 26.2 mile long runs" but that's after running two 2:3X marathons over the previous two weeks, and also coupled with a plane ride in between.
I get that she is no longer racing for the podium, but I assume she wants to keep on running at a decent (injury free) level for many more years now. A lot of responders are sort of blithely, Well what does it matter now if she gets injured? I think it does matter to her.
Flagpole wrote:
bauskern wrote:
I've always admired her as a runner . . . . but
Her quest for all the world majors in this compressed time frame just seems like she is
asking for some sort of physical injury. The Chicago - -plane flight -- Boston double seems
especially risky. It's not like she's 30 . . . . .
Maybe she is some sort of injury-resistant genetic freak?
This is the perfect time for her to do this. She's 40. She's retired as a professional runner. Who cares if she gets injured at this point? She shouldn't. I mean seriously, so what? If she's injured she just can't run for a little while. Big deal.
Correct take. Her livelihood no longer depends on staying healthy. It's an insignificant event if she gets hurt at this stage.
RosietheCuban wrote:I assume you say the same about Dean Karnazes and Pete Kostelnick? No? Why is that?
Neither of them could have their uterus fall out.
lacker of basic Scientific knowledge wrote:
Yup. She needs to worry. All that jogging, bouncing up & down..,,her uterus might fall out!
Your posting deserves a place in the "idiot hall of fame". At least there is a low probability that your brain goes down the drain....
Stefan_2_33 wrote:
lacker of basic Scientific knowledge wrote:
Yup. She needs to worry. All that jogging, bouncing up & down..,,her uterus might fall out!
Your posting deserves a place in the "idiot hall of fame". At least there is a low probability that your brain goes down the drain....
Tell me you don't know the history of the Boston Marathon without explicitly telling me you don't know the history of the Boston Marathon.
Kathrine Switzer wrote:
Stefan_2_33 wrote:
Your posting deserves a place in the "idiot hall of fame". At least there is a low probability that your brain goes down the drain....
Tell me you don't know the history of the Boston Marathon without explicitly telling me you don't know the history of the Boston Marathon.
Before it becomes a battle of Boston experts: she is running the WMM series, not just Boston.
A bad joke doesn't get better because it's an insider's joke.
Stefan_2_33 wrote:
Kathrine Switzer wrote:
Tell me you don't know the history of the Boston Marathon without explicitly telling me you don't know the history of the Boston Marathon.
Before it becomes a battle of Boston experts: she is running the WMM series, not just Boston.
A bad joke doesn't get better because it's an insider's joke.
Not a Bostoncentric joke, nor an insider joke. Women literally could not participate in any race over 800 meters for many many years because people literally believed their uterus might fall out. They even ginned up some fake news stories as evidence to back this theory.
It's not a bad joke, it's witty sarcasm based on fairly recent history.
A joke is not bad just because you're ignorant to history.
Probably yes wrote:
Stefan_2_33 wrote:
Before it becomes a battle of Boston experts: she is running the WMM series, not just Boston.
A bad joke doesn't get better because it's an insider's joke.
Not a Bostoncentric joke, nor an insider joke. Women literally could not participate in any race over 800 meters for many many years because people literally believed their uterus might fall out. They even ginned up some fake news stories as evidence to back this theory.
It's not a bad joke, it's witty sarcasm based on fairly recent history.
A joke is not bad just because you're ignorant to history.
CORRECT! This is a kind of understanding about things in general that is seriously lacking around here. Nice job.
Only if the quest results in some underlying condition that makes even walking, let alone easy running, painful moving forward.
Passionately defending convicted dopers is questionable.
asking for trouble?? She is running dude... she has a goal and is trying to achieve it. What is the trouble...if she gets hurt shell take some time off . She accomplished most everything she has wanted to achieve in running, If she didn't take another step she would probably have no regrets in terms of her running career. Hell maybe it gets her out of bed in the morning, having goals and that mindset is a huge reason she's been so successful in the first place
what is wrong with people? wrote:
RosietheCuban wrote:
She could run 2:27-2:28. Running 2:46 is not that hard on her. Once she is done with this, she will take a break. She is 40 and fitter than 95% of top marathoners. She’ll be fine.
I assume you say the same about Dean Karnazes and Pete Kostelnick? No? Why is that?
What does fitter than 95% of top marathoners even mean? Dude, don’t make up ridiculous statements and stats like that. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
She’s old and has had both knees redone. I’d say that’s the subject matter of the OP’s original concern rather than your insinuation otherwise. You know that, so give it a freaking break.
That’s dude-ETTE to you.
It means she is fitter and faster than 95% of very good female marathoners.
She could run 2:27-2:28, which is faster than 95% of semi-elite. Of course that statistic is an estimate, but it is not that far off.
She is 40 - not old. Who cares if she had both knees redone? Have you seen the times she is running? So…let me repeat…this is not hard for her.
I run a ‘mere’ 80-90 miles a week. If I went out and did back to back 20 milers, it would be hard, but hardly deathly…even though I had a Haglund’s repair on one side (2 years ago) and an Achilles tear repaired from soccer (more years than I would care to admit ago) . But to a runner who runs 10-20 mile weeks, it sounds ludicrous, silly, stupid, and dangerous.
LetsRun is, supposedly, a place where educated runners discuss (or, discus as the erudite few say) such items. As runners, the majority of us who are NOT the 10-20 mile a week variety, we should see this isn’t that crazy of a deal for her. Far from Shalane ‘going home devastated’, she seems to have this under control.
Who cares? She's retired. If she gets injured, she can just take a break and heal.
Me thinks Shalane is a big girl and knows what she is doing.
Can't say the same for a lot of other Runners/'Hobby Joggers or Olympians.
I am posting about something that may help any extreme/ serious Athlete. Check out on Youtube , Dr. James O'Keefe. He gave a talk several years ago on TedTalks. Check it out, especially if you're a Veteran Runner.
Keep in mind, as Dr. O'Keefe states, we have been extreme running for only about 50-60 years. Studies in Europe and China have proven what he states in the video. I think even Dr. Jack Daniels tells us that our hearts max out once we reach 60 % of max. In other words, we don't get any benefits running harder.
I am not a Doctor but a Veteran Runner of 50 years. Ran in high school and college, and a survivor of many 100-mile plus weeks.
I hope that some may benefit from this great video from Dr. O'Keefe. He is brilliant as is Dr. Daniels. Remain healthy friends and enjoy our wonderful sport!
DeleteThisSinceWhiteAmerican wrote:
Does she have a nandrolone hook up?
Probably but I'm sure she's recovering 1000% better in between races than any of us could ever dream of. Would love to see a story on that side of this quest.
I’d like to introduce ultrarunning to you.
She is not going to do it at 65 . Just sayin . At 65 might be waiting for a hip replacement:) yes in December. 55 years of running on an impingement of my hip which I never knew until osteoarthritis was diagnosed 6 years ago . Yea let her run !!!
I say props to Shalane for pulling off the double.
I am particularly interested in her efforts in light of her knee surgeries:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5vJOpfg4BM/?igshid=dyeqtwvoao6l
I'm recovering from bilateral patellar tendon ruptures, not one at a time like Shalane. Recovery from these things is challenging, particularly for very active people but Shalane persevered.
So I'm hoping that she takes care of herself and doesn't suffer through this kind of thing again.
A burrito a day keeps the injuries away....