It's weird and irritating that no athletes have been banned. Especially since one made an absolute farce of the Olympics.
It's weird and irritating that no athletes have been banned. Especially since one made an absolute farce of the Olympics.
llort_vbo wrote:
Yusef Scumm. wrote:
Give me a break…. A marathon runner with asthma AND a thyroid problem.
Go home shady Al…. And take your lab rats with you…..
Shows how little you actually know about asthma and thyroid issues. Be glad you can be a moron
I know this: Kids that actually had asthma sat out gym class. They didn’t go on to be Olympic level marathon runners.
It’s spelled R-u-p-p *
Many would agree T.U.E.s are often abused.
But high performance athletes with asthma is a thing...
" Although anyone can have exercise-induced bronchoconstriction, it's more common in high-level athletes."
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/exercise-induced-asthma/symptoms-causes/syc-20372300
Yusef Scumm. wrote:
llort_vbo wrote:
Shows how little you actually know about asthma and thyroid issues. Be glad you can be a moron
I know this: Kids that actually had asthma sat out gym class. They didn’t go on to be Olympic level marathon runners.
It’s spelled R-u-p-p *
Haile Gebrselassie has asthma.
oinion wrote:
It's weird and irritating that no athletes have been banned. Especially since one made an absolute farce of the Olympics.
Why is it weird, there isn't any proof against any of his athletes? The two violations associated with Salazar were with his son and Steve Magness.
Does this mean Saladbar has to stop coaching Sifan Hassan?
Terrible day for American Distance running. Two more years of NOT competing on the world stage - other than Chelimo I guess.
In the meantime Jerry skates free while his runner gets busted for peds, something Al Sal's never did. What a joke.
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The ban seems appropriate and isn’t a lifetime ban, so should he want to return to coaching, he will be allowed to. At this point, it’s impossible to say what he will want to do.
Maybe he should give up cheat coaching, and get a real 9 to 5 to support himself like the rest of us.
An independent panel found Salazar and Brown possessed and trafficked a banned performance-enhancing substance and administered or attempted to administer a prohibited method to multiple track and field athletes.
if we are ever going to stop doping, there has to be guilt by association, or at least team bans.
Unless a bad apple takes down his coach and team mates with him, there is simply insufficient risk against doping, and it encourages athletes to look the other way.
why give athletes a future ban? invalidate every result they have had in the five years before being busted. do the same for their coach and everyone coached by him/her.
asdfghj wrote:
Yusef Scumm. wrote:
I know this: Kids that actually had asthma sat out gym class. They didn’t go on to be Olympic level marathon runners.
It’s spelled R-u-p-p *
Haile Gebrselassie has asthma.
Did he have asthma as a youth, then overcame this affliction to become a world class runner?
Not likely. Therefore, throw an asterisk after his name as well. He has “asthma” just enough to meet criteria for a TUE for a performance enhancing drug.
The panel emphasised that none of the violations "directly affected athletic competition, and that there was no evidence put before the Cas as to any effect on athletes competing at the elite level within the NOP".
And he was banned why?
The Unkle wrote:
And he was banned why?
LOL. You PR shills crack me up. As if you didn't know.
But anyway, here is why that cheat was banned:
CAS wrote:
The CAS Panel further ruled that Alberto Salazar had committed the following anti-doping rule violations, also as per the 2009 World Anti-Doping Agency Code (WADC):
• Possession (Art. 2.6) of testosterone;
• Complicity (Art. 2.8) in Dr. Jeffrey Brown’s Administration of a Prohibited Method;
• Tampering (Art. 2.5) with the Doping Control Process with respect to the issue of L-carnitine infusions/syringes.
There WAS discussion but then you guys deleted it because message board visitors had scooped you. Anyway, what's to discuss? It's just confirmation of the status quo, which was already recently hashed out in the threads about Nike's Big Bet. Do we really need to put on a song and dance for you yet again?
Meanwhile in another sport... L'ael collins 7 missed drug tests.... What would have happened if he were a T&F athlete?
There is simply no language in the new substance-abuse policy that says seven failures to appear or seven failures to cooperate equate to suspension.
1) The rules, as they relate to "missed drug tests,'' call only for fines and not suspensions.
2) The rules do call for a suspension if a player "fails to cooperate with tester,'' seemingly meaning he does show up - and then somehow does not comply with what the tester is asking of him. But per some reports, Collins has been cited seven times for "failure to appear" for testing - not for "failure to cooperate.''
3) The "failure to cooperate'' rules list the punishments as one-, two- and three-weeks' salary for, respectively, one, two and three violations. After that comes a three-game suspension (for four violations), a four-game suspension (for five violations), an eight-game suspension (for six violations) and then, for a seventh violation, "banishment for an indefinite period of at least one calendar year.''
4) Collins is contending that some of the testing dates that Collins missed came on days when the Cowboys had sent players home due to a COVID-related situation, and that there were therefore mitigating circumstances.
Can he coach Houlihan until his ban ends?
casual obsever wrote:
The Unkle wrote:
And he was banned why?
LOL. You PR shills crack me up. As if you didn't know.
But anyway, here is why that cheat was banned:
CAS wrote:
The CAS Panel further ruled that Alberto Salazar had committed the following anti-doping rule violations, also as per the 2009 World Anti-Doping Agency Code (WADC):
• Possession (Art. 2.6) of testosterone;
• Complicity (Art. 2.8) in Dr. Jeffrey Brown’s Administration of a Prohibited Method;
• Tampering (Art. 2.5) with the Doping Control Process with respect to the issue of L-carnitine infusions/syringes.
You left out the part where the panel concluded that none of the violations affected any athletic competitions.
Here it is:
"The panel emphasised that none of the violations "directly affected athletic competition, and that there was no evidence put before the Cas as to any effect on athletes competing at the elite level within the NOP".
Here are the claims:
An independent panel upheld findings of four violations by Brown and three by Salazar, with both being found to have tampered with the doping control process, and Brown to have trafficked a banned performance-enhancing substance to Salazar.
Salazar was found to have possessed testosterone, with Brown complicit, plus Brown was found to have administered a prohibited method, with Salazar complicit.
Now why would a coach tamper with a doping control process and possess PEDs if "none of the violations "directly affected athletic competition, and that there was no evidence put before the Cas as to any effect on athletes competing at the elite level within the NOP".?
Smells like a political hit based in trumped up BS.
Scape goating
Salazar was gaming the system, I always wondered with such a high range of Test. allowed why couldn't any athlete have their test. legally raised to the highest allowable value? Especially for women. If MB etc... can run w/10x the nat test of a women, shouldn't women be allowed to raise their levels to compete? I realize they may grow some facial hair but that should be their choice.