Gary Bjorkland.
Bill Rodgers, Don Kardong, and Garry Bjorklund were conspicuously absent; but on the morning of May 24, 178 of the 222 American men who had met the qualifying standard of 2:21:54 were in Buffalo, ready to run.
Gary Bjorkland.
Bill Rodgers, Don Kardong, and Garry Bjorklund were conspicuously absent; but on the morning of May 24, 178 of the 222 American men who had met the qualifying standard of 2:21:54 were in Buffalo, ready to run.
Hodgie you're right . . . I forgot about Bjorklund. I don't believe Kardong at that level then, but Garry could have made things interesting. Stll Sandoval was awesome then and Durden and Heffner ran great races.
Were you there?
Carl Lewis got hosed out of another shot at LJ Gold
Excuse me??? wrote:
As for Benji giving back to the community, I and many others that I have talked to, find him to be extremely arrogant and that is not the type of person I want "giving back" to running. Give me people like Bill Rodgers or Rob De Castella any day.
Agreed. Benji has always walked with a chip on his shoulder, continually bad-mouthing others with no apparent motive. I understand he hasn't changed to this day. Sad.
Give me people like Bill Rodgers or Rob De Castella any day
Rob De Castella is from Australia, you moron!
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BJ was one tough runner.
Peter wrote:
Give me people like Bill Rodgers or Rob De Castella any day
Rob De Castella is from Australia, you moron!
I am a bit confused. Where did I say he was from anywhere besides Australia. His country wasn't mentioned because we were talking about giving back to the running community, which De Castella has done both in his home country and in Boulder Colorado when he lived there.
Nice post though. And I'm the moron? Maybe next time read the entire post as opposed to just part of it and then you can respond in a more mature and intelligent way.
The...Ocho wrote:
Agreed. Benji has always walked with a chip on his shoulder, continually bad-mouthing others with no apparent motive. I understand he hasn't changed to this day. Sad.
I think part of Benji's chip on his shoulder is just what we are talking about here in that he wants to be viewed as an Olympian and many people just don't see it that way. There are certainly others that do view him as an Olympian and that is certainly justified if they want to see him that way.
This is a true story about Benji. A friend of mine, who was not a national caliber runner, but was decent, was out running one day and ran into Benji. They started running together and ended up running for over a half hour. Benji talked about himself the entire time and never once asked my friend anything about himself and didn't even bother to ask him his name. Needless to say, my friend was not impressed.
mary decker.
Once81 ask:
>Were you there?<
I ran Boston and bombed. I was not at the trials.
Carl Lewis was still young and up and coming in 1980 and would not likely have been a gold medalist. Larry Myricks was still the top American long jumper at that point and was the pre-boycott gold medal favorite, although Lutz Dombrowski of East Germany surprised by jumping over 28 feet in Moscow.
Tony sandoval did make the team, but there were no trials, sandoval and don kardong were among the casulties of this.
Tony Sandoval.
What so you mean "there were no trials?" There was a trial, and Sandoval won it.
Not only did Sandoval, durden and hefner run great races I believe they still have the three fastest times from a trails marathon.
Also, I think Hefner's progression was awesome. He improved from a 2:23 or so PR to 2:17 in December 79 to 2:10 at the trials. I am remembering this from a conversation I had with him. If someone has more exact data please post it.
I agree that it certainly was not in the bag for Carl in 1980 as it was in LA, hence the couching of it as a "shot." But, consider that in 1979 he ranked 5th in the world, in 1980 6th, and #1 in 1981 there would have been a better than average chance. Dumbrowski and Myrick would have had a titanic battle for sure, but we all know what usually happened when Carl got on the biggest stages.
Ironically enough, both winning jumps in 1980 and 84 were identical marks of 8.54 meters.
runfar wrote:Not only did Sandoval, durden and hefner run great races I believe they still have the three fastest times from a trails marathon.
You be right.
2:10:19 1 Tony Sandoval '80
2:10:41 2 Benji Durden '80
2:10:55 3 Kyle Heffner '80
2:11:42 1 Alan Culpepper '04
2:11:43 1 Pete Pfitzinger '84
2:11:44 2 Alberto Salazar '84
2:11:47 2 Meb Keflezighi '04
2:11:50 3 John Tuttle '84
2:11:51 1 Frank Shorter '76
2:11:58 2 Bill Rodgers '76
2:11:59 4 Dave Gordon '84
2:12:02 3 Dan Browne '04
2:12:25 5 Dean Matthews '84
2:12:26 1 Mark Conover '88
2:12:35 4 Trent Briney '04
2:12:39 4 Ron Tabb '84
2:12:41 6 ----Sandoval '84
2:12:43 1 Steve Spence '92
2:12:45 1 Bob Kempainen '96
2:12:49 2 Ed Eyestone '88
2:12:51 2 ----Eyestone '92
2:12:54 3 ----Kempainen '92
1972: Eugene, Oregon July 9
100 Starters, 66 Finishers
1) Kenny Moore (OR) 2:15:58
2) Frank Shorter (CO) 2:15:58
3) Jack Bacheler (FL) 2:20:30
4) Jeff Galloway (FL) 2:20:30
5) Greg Brock (CA) 2:22:30
6) Don Kardong (CA) 2:22:42
7) Mark Covert (CA) 2:23:35
8) Tom Hoffman (WI) 2:23:45
9) Norm Higgins (CT) 2:24:08
10) Skip Houk (NV) 2:24:41
1976: Eugene, Oregon May 22
87 Qualifiers, 77 Starters, 49 Finishers
1) Frank Shorter (FL) 2:11:51
2) Bill Rodgers (MA) 2:11:58
3) Don Kardong (WA) 2:13:54
4) Tony Sandoval (CA) 2:14:58
5) Tom Fleming (NJ) 2:15:48
6) Bob Varsha (GA) 2:15:50
7) John Bramley (CT) 2:17:16
8) Kirk Pfeffer (CA) 2:17:58
9) Jeff Galloway (GA) 2:18:29
10) Amby Burfoot (CT) 2:18:56
11) Bob Busby (MO) 2:19:05
12) Carl Hatfield (WV) 2:19:18
13) Marty Sudzina (PA) 2:19:55
1980: Buffalo, New York May 24
2:21:54
225 Qualifiers, 192 starters, 125 Finishers
1) Tony Sandoval (NM) 2:10:19 Trials Rec
2) Benji Durden (GA) 2:10:41
3) Kyle Heffner (TX) 2:10:55
4) Ron Tabb (TX) 2:12:39
5) Jeff Wells(TX) 2:13:16
6) Kevin McCarey (OR) 2:13:17
7) Randy Thomas (MA) 2:13:40
8) Gordon Minty (MI) 2:13:53
9) Frank Richardson (IA) 2:14:17
10) Dennis Rinde (CA) 2:14:22
11) Walt Saeger (OH) 2:14:38
12) Dave Smith (CA) 2:14:48
13) David Patterson (PA) 2:15:09
14) Chuck Hattersley (CO) 2:15:30
15) Jeff Foster (PA) 2:15:56
16) Dick Beardsley (MN) 2:16:01
17) John Dimick (VT) 2:16:08
18) Kim Burke (PA) 2:16:10
19) John Vitale (CT) 2:16:22
20) Ted Castaneda (CO) 2:16:38
21) Mike Pinocci (NV) 2:16:46
22) Gary Fanelli (PA) 2:16:49
23) Chuck Smead (CA) 2:16:58
24) Cliff Karthauser (NE) 2:16:58
25) Bill Glad (WA) 2:17:23
26) John Miley (OK) 2:17:23
27) Roy Kulikowski (SC) 2:17:26
28) Bruce Robinson (MD) 2:17:30
29) David Miley (OK) 2:17:40
30) Rick Callison (OH) 2:17:42
56 men under 2:20 - a Trials record
1984: Buffalo, New York May 26
2:19:04 201 Qualifiers,
172 Starters, 108 Finishers
1) Pete Pfitzinger (NY) 2:11:43
2) Alberto Salazar (OR) 2:11:44
3) John Tuttle (GA) 2:11:50
4) Dave Gordon (OR) 2:11:59
5) Dean Matthews (OR) 2:12:25
6) Tony Sandoval (NM) 2:12:41
7) Greg Meyer (MA) 2:13:29
8) Bill Rodgers (MA) 2:13:30
9) Sal Vega (NM) 2:14:18
10) Tom Raunig (MT) 2:16:02
11) Duncan MacDonald (HI) 2:16:56
12) David Hinz 2:17:18
13) Doug Avrit 2:17:45
14) Bill Weidenbach (WA) 2:17:45
15) Herb Wills (FL) 2:17:54
1988: Jersey City, New Jersey April 24
2:20:00
136 Qualifiers, 115 Starters, 77 Finishers
1) Mark Conover (CA) 2:12:26 $50,000
2) Ed Eyestone (UT) 2:12:49 $25,000
3) Pete Pfitzinger (MA) 2:13:09 $20,000
4) Paul Gompers (MA) 2:14:20 $15,000
5) Mark Curp (MO) 2:14:40 $10,000
6) Don Norman (PA) 2:15:49 $8,000
7) Bob Hodge (MA) 2:16:56 $6,000
8) Greg Meyer (MA) 2:17:40 $4,500
9) Steve Spence (PA) 2:17:49 $3,000
10) Herb Wills (FL) 2:17:52 $2,000
11) Randy Thomas (MA) 2:18:10 $1,500
12) Chris Prior (OR) 2:18:34 $1,000
13) Ken Judson (PA) 2:18:38 $900
14) Brad Ingram (OH) 2:18:45 $800
15) Bill Weidenbach (WA) 2:19:21 $700
16) Danny Grimes (CA) 2:19:34 $600
17) Paul Pilkington (UT) 2:19:39 $400
18) Tom Ratcliffe (MA) 2:20:22 $300
19) Darrell General (MD) 2:20:31 $200
20) Ron Gee (CA) 2:20:58 $100
1992: Columbus, Ohio April 11
2:20:00
112 Qualifiers, 102 Starters, 55 Finishers
1) Steve Spence (PA) 2:12:43 $58,000
2) Ed Eyestone (UT) 2:12:51 $48,000
3) Bob Kempainen (MN) 2:12:54 $38,000
4) Keith Brantly (FL) 2:14:16 $15,000
5) Bill Reifsnyder (NM) 2:15:45 $10,000
6) Steve Taylor (VA) 2:16:14 $8,000
7) Chris Fox (MD) 2:16:40 $7,000
8) Jim Hage (DC) 2:16:47 $6,000
9) Danny Gonzalez (CO) 2:17:53 $5,000
10) Mark Conover (CA) 2:18:17 $4,000
11) Joe Leuchtmann (MO) 2:19:01 $3,000
12) Don Johns (MI) 2:19:05 $2,500
13) Dan Held (WI) 2:19:23 $2,000
14) Chad Bennion (UT) 2:19:25 $1,750
15) Chris Prior (CO) 2:19:26 $1,500
16) Paul McGovern (MA) 2:19:35 $1,250
17) Tom Stevens (MD) 2:19:41 $1,000
18) Scott Bagley (NY) 2:21:05 $800
19) Matt Ebiner (CA) 2:21:13 $700
20) Dave Dunham (NH) 2:21:18 $500
1996: Charlotte, North Carolina February 17
2:20:00 (A); 2:22:00 (B)
135 Qualifiers, 116 Starters, 90 Finishers
1) Bob Kempainen (MN) 2:12:45 $100,000
2) Mark Coogan (CO) 2:13:05 $40,000
3) Keith Brantly (FL) 2:13:22 $30,000
4) Steve Plasencia (MN) 2:14:20 $20,000
5) Marco Ochoa (CO) 2:14:22 $15,000
6) Keith Dowling (NM) 2:14:30 $10,000
7) Dan Held (WI) 2:14:53 $9,000
8) Jon Warren (TX) 2:15:59 $7,000
9) Jeff Jacobs (IL) 2:16:13 $5,000
10) David Morris (NM) 2:16:20 $4,000
11) Terrence Mahon (PA) 2:16:28 $3,000
12) Darrell General (MD) 2:16:30 $2,500
13) Ashley Johnson (AZ) 2:16:39 $2,000
14) Craig Woshner (VA) 2:16:41 $1,500
15) Ed Eyestone (UT) 2:16:51 $1,000
16) Budd Coates (PA) 2:17:26
17) Jose Iniguez (TX) 2:17:42
18) Kevin Collins (NY) 2:17:51
19) Dennis Simonaitis (UT) 2:17:57
20) John Dimoff (OR) 2:18:06
21) Howard Nippert (VA) 2:19:08
22) Joe LeMay (CT) 2:19:10
23) Tom Redding (OK) 2:19:54
24) Steve Wilson (FL) 2:19:58
25) Will Kimball (OR) 2:20:21
2000: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania May 7
2:20:00 (A); 2:22:00 (B)
114 Qualifiers, 99 Starters, 78 Finishers
1) Rod DeHaven (WI) 2:15:30 $75,000*
2) Peter DeLaCerda (CO) 2:16:18 $25,000
3) Mark Coogan (MD) 2:17:04 $20,000
4) Scott Larson (CO) 2:17:15 $17,500
5) Eddy Hellebuyck (NM) 2:18:30 $15,000
6) Dave Scudamore (CA) 2:18:38 $10,000
7) Gary Stolz (CA) 2:18:46 $9,000
8) Jeff Campbell (CO) 2:19:18 $8,000
9) Danny Martinez (CA) 2:19:38 $7,000
10) Teddy Mitchell (CO) 2:20:33 $6,000
11) Clint Verran (MI) 2:20:45 $5,500
12) Kelly Mortenson (CO) 2:20:55 $5,000
13) Craig Lawson (UT) 2:21:01 $4,500
14) Fred Kieser (OH) 2:21:12 $4,000
15) Mike Dudley (CO) 2:21:27 $3,500
16) Jon Hume (CO) 2:21:53 $3,000
17) Jeff Jacobs (IL) 2:22:13 $2,500
18) Josh Cox (CA) 2:22:30 $2,000
19) Tom Jeffrey (VA) 2:22:41 $1,500
20) Greg Wenneborg (AZ) 2:22:47 $1,000
*Includes $35,000 Olympic Team Bonus
2004
1 Alan Culpepper 31 Lafayette CO 2:11:42
2 Meb Keflezighi 28 San Diego CA 2:11:47
3 Daniel Browne 28 Beaverton OR 2:12:02
4 Trent Briney 25 Rochester Hills MI 2:12:35
5 Clint Verran 28 Rochester Hills MI 2:14:37
6 Scott Larson 34 Superior CO 2:15:03
7 Josh Cox 28 Murrieta CA 2:15:18
8 Eddy Hellebuyck 43 Albuquerque NM 2:15:36
9 Peter Gilmore 26 Menlo Park CA 2:15:44
10 Jason Lehmkuhle 26 St. Paul MN 2:16:27
11 Keith Dowling 34 Reston VA 2:16:50
12 Kevin Collins 32 Albuquerque NM 2:17:00
13 Brian Sell 25 Rochester Hills MI 2:17:20
14 Fred Kieser 32 Cleveland OH 2:17:21
15 Scott Strand 35 Birmingham AL 2:17:44
16 Steven Moreno 26 Oakland CA 2:17:48
17 Corey Creasey 24 Berkeley CA 2:17:58
18 Scott Nicholas 30 Portland OR 2:18:13
19 Conor Holt 31 Norman OK 2:18:17
20 Christopher Banks 25 Alexandria VA 2:18:56
21 Ryan Meissen 25 River Falls WI 2:19:02
22 Scott Goff 27 Boulder CO 2:19:11
23 Ryan Shay 24 East Jordan MI 2:19:20
24 Matt Sandercock 34 Downingtown PA 2:20:23
25 Carl Rundell 35 Birmingham MI 2:21:08
26 John Dimoff 32 Portland OR 2:21:12
27 Michael Cox 28 Princeton WV 2:21:52
28 Jason Ryf 32 Oshkosh WI 2:21:55
29 Kevin Taylor 28 Raleigh NC 2:22:04
30 Erik Kean 26 Cheyenne WY 2:22:09
31 Brantley Lutz 28 Albuquerque NM 2:22:17
32 Edward Callinan 29 Cherry Hill NJ 2:22:20
33 Michael Wardian 29 Arlington VA 2:22:40
34 Eric Blake 24 Plattsburgh NY 2:22:44
runfar wrote:
Not only did Sandoval, durden and hefner run great races I believe they still have the three fastest times from a trails marathon.
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That is pretty impressive when you think about the times that the three of them ran. I still would say that the team would have been made up of Sandoval, Rodgers and Bjorkland, but so many things can happen in a marathon. One thing to keep in mind is that because the 1980 Olympic trials marathon did not really mean anything, at least in terms of being able to go to the Olympics, that completely changed the complexity of the race. There would have been a lot more pressure knowing that if you get in the top three you get to go to the Olympics. I think Rodgers and Bjorkland would have handled it the best, but you really don't know. Maybe Toni, Benji and Kyle would have still been our three representatives at the Olympics, but not likely.
luff wrote:
Hey Chris,
Were the trails even run in 1980? I thought Tony Sandoval "made the team." I am pretty sure they ran the marathon trials. Who were the top three?
Did they hold the track and field trials?
Yes the trials were run - Marathon in Buffalo, track and field in Eugene.
Surprised that no one mentioned Mary Decker-Tabb-Slaney....
She definitely missed out on a potential golden opportunity. Went on to win 83 WCs in the 1500 and 3000 against those pesky Soviets.