Katir is the most obvious doper of all time

ITYM “boaritos”

Concupiscurd wrote:

4hw45h wrote:

Jakob went from 3:39 to 3:31 at the age of 17.

Oh but he is white, sorry.

And then "he was maturing", etc.

White = Clean for most Letsrun posters and Katir doesn't even have a white name. So he can't be clean.

What's wrong with you? You don't see a difference between someone improving at 17 and someone else improving at 21 or 22? Anyway I actually think Jakob is a prime candidate to be doping esp. with the history Norway has with cross-country skiing. I want Katir to be clean because I like him but the Spanish also don't have the best reputation for doping.

Can you really compare Norwegian skiing with apparent Spanish systematic EPO doping? I only know of two doping cases in Norwegian skiing. Remember it's their national sport, yet only two doping cases. Maybe you're referring to alleged asthma TUEs? In any case, remember that Nordic skiing is different sport to middle-distance running. Seems a weak association to me.

tbf...i wouldnt be surprised if jakob is doping and im not even a fan of his really, but to point out his progression at 17 y/o as being suspicious is hilarious.

Concupiscurd wrote:

esp. with the history Norway has with cross-country skiing..

What history?

Finland.

Austria.

Spain.

Russia.

There you go.

Exercise-induced asthma comes with training 1200 hours / year, most of it in cold weather. If you have a respiratory condition as an athlete, you have two choices. Retire, or medicate.

When it comes to maghrebs it is extremely hard not to be extremely suspicious.

Calm down dudes.

Clown shoes and Monaco bounce track.

This is really like a 3:33 run.

John Scott wrote:

Concupiscurd wrote:

esp. with the history Norway has with cross-country skiing..

What history?

Finland.

Austria.

Spain.

Russia.

There you go.

Exercise-induced asthma comes with training 1200 hours / year, most of it in cold weather. If you have a respiratory condition as an athlete, you have two choices. Retire, or medicate.

When it comes to maghrebs it is extremely hard not to be extremely suspicious.

ahhh the "maghrebs"... Even though he is Spanish.

And yes, nothing in Norwegian skiing makes anyone suspicious.

Should we also note that former powerhouse 1500-5000 doping countries like Turkey, Morocco and Algeria are complete non-factors now…Are we to believe it’s so obvious and easy yet those countries randomly suck now?

Lolololol! Look at you all, crying into your pillows because you now know Coke Hocker will be kicking down the field to finish 8th. No way can he live with anyone capable of what Cheruiyot and Katir unleashed tonight. Add in Jakob, Kerr, Wightman, and Mcsweyn. It's going to be a painful Olympics for US distance athletes. Only Mu and Coburn look close to medal prospects

Huh? Katir won’t be in the race. Tim maybe not as well. McSweyn can’t kick, Marcin, Tefera and Simotwo looked decent but 3:30 in a drag race isn’t that scary…if any of those guys kicked to a 3:29 it’s different. Bleh from Edwards and Filip. This race was not bad news for the Americans besides Tim’s potential presence.

4hw45h wrote:

Jakob went from 3:39 to 3:31 at the age of 17.

Oh but he is white, sorry.

And then "he was maturing", etc.

White = Clean for most Letsrun posters and Katir doesn't even have a white name. So he can't be clean.

So how many world class brothers does this Katir guy have? How hard did he train from age 12-17? Your Spanish name is A.Moran.

4hw45h wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Well, there's the issue

The issue are idiots like you who don't accept times from certain nationalities.

Xenophobic pricks.

Bruh. Spain has been a hotbed for doping for years in cycling and other sports. Perspective is important.

Spain has been notorious in doping since the early 1990s.

Chef Gordon Ramzi wrote:

Calm down dudes.

Clown shoes and Monaco bounce track.

This is really like a 3:33 run.

You make a good point and if you look at many athletes they have run faster in Monaco by one or two seconds or sometimes even three seconds better than their previous best over a lifetime. that is a huge margin over 1500 m absolutely huge and it raises questions.

As the track can probably not be short it is probably a very advantageous track by the surface of the track and by the geographic location, mild Med climate, and the way the stadium is built to shelter from the wind it is almost like in a cocoon.

Don't forget that the Spaniards doped up little Lionel Messi to the gills when he was a young teenager.

Katir, after his magnificent run which apparently he was only able to share with the Kenyans as the other athletes especially the Caucasian athletes totally ignored him which is very sad.

Katir, grew up in an area of southeast Spain, Murcia, which is a poor relatively undeveloped area of the country with a very dry, arid climate and a lot of poverty especially inland where he comes from. In many of the villages inland in the province it is almost like being in a Third World with many homes having an outside toilet and average income way below the Spanish average, many people subsisting on only €300-€400 per month.

Katir is a supremely devoted and dedicated individual who has put his life on hold to devote everything to athletics and also fulfill the expectations of the great one above and his wish and destiny that is in the name of the great one - Allah.

In France, we have a saying -«  tant qu’il ne sera pas jugé correctement il reste présumé innocent » which means that without proof to the contrary someone should be deemed innocent and not subject to slander and vilification of his name.

His progress has been tremendous but he’s nearing that sweet spot in his career where he will continue to improve for a few years.

maaaaaybe... wrote:

Man Spain has been like a paradise for doping for a long time. It hasn t been like that last years though; and our results in track n field show it.

Anyone who follows cycling knows this. Spanish anti-doping is a joke. Of course a 6'1" cyclist (Indurain) climbed with the all the best little horse jockeys that normally make good climbers. Not to mention that I think Operation Puerto from like 2006 is still not closed and there may still be non-cyclist blood bags that haven't been revealed. The only Spanish known positives came from police raids and prosecutions; doping authorities were doing NOTHING.

most obvious dopers ever: bobblehead, doorbell mo, rupp, centro, FloJo, Ben Johnson

Harambe wrote:

Bruh. Spain has been a hotbed for doping for years in cycling and other sports. Perspective is important.

Both Spain and USA have bad recent histories for doping in athletics and cycling.

It doesn't mean that fast runners from these countries - such as Katir and Centrowitz - are automatically suspect.

But, sadly, there is always that nagging thought.