HE'S BACK. Timothy Cheruiyot 3:28.28 FTW. Spanish and Aussie records fall!!!

Rojo makes no sense here. He doesn't want Tim to lose to a certain someone who is obviously Katir. Why? Because he's a Spaniard of Moroccan descent that has flourished. He's a young guy. If there's anything off about him other than that POST IT. We should know that information, it doesn't seem to be out there if there is anything. Tim on the other hand has had several training partners busted and you're STILL rooting for him. Why is that? When you put up a national record like Katir did you celebrate immediately and what language did he use after that 5000m record? He spoke in Spanish. He's not some dude representing Spain because it's easier than making the Moroccan team. There are plenty of others doing such things and even here in the US.

koyPond wrote:

KaareV wrote:

A perfect race. A lot of PBs. But as usual all these allegations. Unsubstansiated. Based on mechanical reasoning. Katir has lived in Spain since he was five. From Marocco. When you have some evidence of doping, please post it.

Oh my sweet naive child.

That's the way to argue. Where did you learn that? Not at a college or a place for higher learning, I hope.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

As I posted in another thread Tim mentioned he had the double whammy of losing someone in his family and the hamstring at the Trials. He is fully back, and really hope he is in Tokyo.

I get the Katir red flags but he is young. Who knows? He’s certainly not hiding from testing.

Yes, I saw it. He is back and I hope he will be in Tokyo.

Katir ran fast as early as in January, 7.35 3000 indoors.

Charlie Chaplin wrote:

McSewyn actually looked disappointed at the end. I don't know if it was because of the realisation that he's still a big step behind Tim and Jakob, or because he fears a Moroccan doper is going to keep him out of the medals for the next 8 years.

I think he didn't like running 3:29 with a 54-second last lap and being passed by Ingebrigsten in the last 50 meters.

koyPond wrote:

KaareV wrote:

A perfect race. A lot of PBs. But as usual all these allegations. Unsubstansiated. Based on mechanical reasoning. Katir has lived in Spain since he was five. From Marocco. When you have some evidence of doping, please post it.

Oh my sweet naive child.

And BTW. A guy (22) ran 5000 14:08 in 2019, then 13.33 in 2020, this year 13.16. And he has the capacity to run sub 13:10 in the Olympics. When will you start to accuse him? Trained by Gjert Ingebrigtsen since, yes, from 2019 to the full extent.

Timmy Bounce Back.

Centro and Hocker would've been out of the top 10.

Tim dropped them like a sack of you-know-whats.

McSweyn was checked terribly by Katir with 150m to go. Arguably a DQ for Katir there. McSweyn lost all momentum and would have been pushing for 2nd and 0.5s quicker. That's why he was disappointed I'd say.

drtoneill wrote:

McSweyn was checked terribly by Katir with 150m to go. Arguably a DQ for Katir there. McSweyn lost all momentum and would have been pushing for 2nd and 0.5s quicker. That's why he was disappointed I'd say.

Yes, I saw McSweyn push Katir out of his way but I didn't see what precipitated that.

To bad I didn’t post my thoughts on Katir before the race and I was going to say he will blow 3:30 out of the water and run 3:28. That Spanish sauce is something else

Burrito en Spanish es “ENCHILADA.”

They don’t want to let the pace dawdle with Americans and their kicks, but if the pace is too fast it could also be trouble playing rabbit...

What is the winning strategy?

another sham scam wrote:

tctctc wrote:

Katir looked like he’d been on a recovery run after the race

A young guy of Moroccan descent living in Spain? That’s literally the perfect storm for drugs. I mean, at least make it LOOK like it was difficult.

But if Hocker ran a 5s pr & ran 3:30, it's because HE HADNT BEEN IN THE RIGHT RACE.

Racist garbage with the white knight Americans never under scrutiny as always on these boards.

Why is this track even allowed? It's a ped all on its own. Then you add the runner's peds. A perfect storm.

yeah ok boss wrote:

another sham scam wrote:

A young guy of Moroccan descent living in Spain? That’s literally the perfect storm for drugs. I mean, at least make it LOOK like it was difficult.

But if Hocker ran a 5s pr & ran 3:30, it's because HE HADNT BEEN IN THE RIGHT RACE.

Racist garbage with the white knight Americans never under scrutiny as always on these boards.

May be you are right in your first sentence. But no evidence of raicst garbage.

What he really did was using an Association Fallacy. He just can''t think straight. Ought to be arrested for that.

Let’s be honest. It will an accomplishment for even just one American to make the Olympic final.

Trucker Hat wrote:

Let’s be honest. It will an accomplishment for even just one American to make the Olympic final.

The American system is terrible when you account for population. All the pros are split up, no consistency in the NCAA or sub elite. We're overall awful in depth in distance. The Japanese are killing us in the marathon we should be at least as deep as they are yet we're sending Abdi to the Olympics and he's a fossil.

Some might argue this as evidence: 2021 3:28.76 Stade Louis II, Monaco (MON) 09 JUL 2021 2020 3:36.59 Castellón (ESP) 24 AUG 2020 2019 3:37.20 Castellón (ESP) 23 JUL 2019 2018 3:40.84 Castellón (ESP) 26 JUN 2018

koyPond wrote:

KaareV wrote:

A perfect race. A lot of PBs. But as usual all these allegations. Unsubstansiated. Based on mechanical reasoning. Katir has lived in Spain since he was five. From Marocco. When you have some evidence of doping, please post it.

Oh my sweet naive child.

Well, I didn't quite cry when the pre-Tim god of the 1500 went down for cycling potatoes, but I was sad, I'll admit. I'll be less sad and more resigned when the next does.