Centro defends Shelby

finallyransub17 wrote:

fethullah gulen rupp wrote:

exactly! centro just inadvertently made the pork offal story even less convincing, which i didn't think was possible lmao. of all the scenarios they could have chosen, i will never understood why they chose pork offal. just mind boggling.

+1

She would have known immediately that it didn't taste right and wouldn't have eaten it.

I'm pretty suspicious of the burrito story as many of you are, but I also don't know that this is a great argument either. I've had places get my order wrong, and I still eat what they give me. It's even more likely I wouldn't go back and ask for my correct order at a place like a food truck. (Unless, of course pork offal would be too disgusting to eat. Then, yeah, maybe I wouldn't just take what I'm given. I don't have experience eating pork offal myself). Anyway, I think there are a lot of other pieces of the story that others have pointed out that can make you suspicious.

fethullah gulen rupp wrote:

of all the scenarios they could have chosen, i will never understood why they chose pork offal. just mind boggling.

I get that it's a ridiculous story, but what other excuse should they have come up with?

Based on the scientific journals, the pork offal was the only one that had a tiny sliver of feasibility. Short of admitting to doping or saying she took a tainted supplement (which would have resulted in a ban), I'm not sure what other story she could have come up with?

HashTag wrote:

Centro may be defending Shelby because she has dirt on him. One never knows what may happen when one plays these “hide the burrito” games.

That must be it.

Sheesh

HashTag wrote:

Centro may be defending Shelby because she has dirt on him. One never knows what may happen when one plays these “hide the burrito” games.

Two drug cheats hanging around each other and dating. How unusual.

yeah idk wrote:

finallyransub17 wrote:

WADA does not believe that a specific food was the cause of the positive test.

+1

She would have known immediately that it didn't taste right and wouldn't have eaten it.

I'm pretty suspicious of the burrito story as many of you are, but I also don't know that this is a great argument either. I've had places get my order wrong, and I still eat what they give me. It's even more likely I wouldn't go back and ask for my correct order at a place like a food truck. (Unless, of course pork offal would be too disgusting to eat. Then, yeah, maybe I wouldn't just take what I'm given. I don't have experience eating pork offal myself). Anyway, I think there are a lot of other pieces of the story that others have pointed out that can make you suspicious.

Actual quote - "I know everything that she put in her body..." Any one else giggle at this comment like a mind in the gutter middle school kid?

I bet you do Centro... I bet you do.

What we need wrote:

fethullah gulen rupp wrote:

of all the scenarios they could have chosen, i will never understood why they chose pork offal. just mind boggling.

I get that it's a ridiculous story, but what other excuse should they have come up with?

Based on the scientific journals, the pork offal was the only one that had a tiny sliver of feasibility. Short of admitting to doping or saying she took a tainted supplement (which would have resulted in a ban), I'm not sure what other story she could have come up with?

my $0.02? either tainted beef or tainted supplement (assuming they're not interested in coming clean). the sequence of events that had to occur for her to get a burrito stuffed with nandrolone-enriched pork is off the charts unlikely. yeah, she would have still gotten 2 years for a tainted supplement, but i'll bet in hindsight they wish they'd gone that way seeing as she got the 4 year, your-story-is-BS smackdown.

I just watched the interview. I hadn’t seen him talk much before, but Centro is a great interview, very articulate and likable, in my opinion. Very few athletes comes across so authentic.

We may never know the truth about Shelby, but centros straightforward, unscripted and emphatic support of her is definitely a factor for me in this whole situation and I would like to think he is being sincere.

CentroNO wrote:

Actual quote - "I know everything that she put in her body..." Any one else giggle at this comment like a mind in the gutter middle school kid?

I bet you do Centro... I bet you do.

So, did he intentionally BUY her that offal (tripas) burrito and told her it was carne asada instead? Centro would have learned that trick from Al Sal, "Here, eat this. Don't ask what it is. You don't need to know."

fghrunner wrote:

Hmm i am maybe too easy but this makes me sort of believe her again? Idk, i sort of assumed centro was going to be a "no comment" but this is a pretty strong stance and defense of he ex. He starts talking about it at like 11:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAe5uJ7OLKU

Makes you believe her again because Centro says this? Come on dude my god. What about if Shalane started crying or Jerry went into a fit of rage? That easy?

By now we all know what Shelby was doing right? The classic "grey zone" optimization of key hormones in the body - the old "if WADA says I'm allowed X nanograms of substance Y in me, my job is to take whatever I can to get as close to number X as possible" spiel. And who were the original masters of that? Salazar and the Oregon Project of which Centro was right in the middle of. Shelby was trying to get as close to the fire as possible but stepped a little too close (actually a lot when you think she ended up 2.5X over the limit for nandrolone).

If it's true that Jerry and Shalane didn't know what was going on (which I personally believe), where do you think Shelby got this kind of idea? Her big jump in performances all started occurring right about the time she started "spending more time" with the guy in the video above. You really believe that's just yet another set of coincidence?

Dude if I was part of that "coincidence" if someone asked me those same questions I tell you what my answers would be - EXACTLY what we just heard from Centro - almost to the word.

What we need wrote:

fethullah gulen rupp wrote:

of all the scenarios they could have chosen, i will never understood why they chose pork offal. just mind boggling.

I get that it's a ridiculous story, but what other excuse should they have come up with?

Based on the scientific journals, the pork offal was the only one that had a tiny sliver of feasibility. Short of admitting to doping or saying she took a tainted supplement (which would have resulted in a ban), I'm not sure what other story she could have come up with?

You're 100% right. We used to see the old "tainted supplement" story all the time until WADA made it clear that this was the no-argument stance on supplements:

It is an athletes responsibility to know exactly what they are putting into their bodies and what may be produced from what they put in their bodies.

This closes the door on arguments such as " well I was taking this supplement and it doesn't contain (in this case) nandrolone" - even though the supplement may contain pro-hormones (or hormones that stimulate the production) of banned substances.

Because that would have been the excuse if it was allowed because that's exactly what I believe SH was doing - over the counter supplements that stimulate natural nandrolone production (and knowingly) - which is still absolutely illegal according to WADA code.

So where else do you go? You roll the dice with the only other plausible thing - contaminated meat because we've seen it before. Sadly for you the other cases (Wilson and Lawson) turned out to be legit (provable and of genuine "trace" amounts) - not borderline comedic in terms of details (order a carne asade burrito but got given a disgusting pork offal mix of ginormous size and chose to eat it anyways) and 2.5 times the legal upper-outlier limit.

fghrunner wrote:

Hmm i am maybe too easy but this makes me sort of believe her again? Idk, i sort of assumed centro was going to be a "no comment" but this is a pretty strong stance and defense of he ex. He starts talking about it at like 11:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAe5uJ7OLKU

Well if a guy who once tweeted a yawn emoji when it came out his coach was under investigation for systematic doping his athletes comes out in her defense I'm sold.

fethullah gulen rupp wrote:

to paraphrase, he says they went to that burrito truck together all the time and always got carne asada burritos. then the one time she went without him because she was gonna watch the bachelor with the girls she gets dosed with nandrolone? sorry but i don't buy it. either she's guilty or she has the worst luck on the planet.

also, "i was with her 24/7" lol dude no you weren't (or at least i hope not bc that's weird). either she was hiding it from him or she has dirt on him.

THIS. exactly this. nothing to add.

Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:

If it's true that Jerry and Shalane didn't know what was going on (which I personally believe), where do you think Shelby got this kind of idea?

I don't believe for one second that they didn't know. For one, Jerry is too much of a control freak and too experienced to not realize why his athletes had performance jumps.

Second, both Jerry and Shalane came to the banned cheat's defense, despite the unanimous CAS decision, thereby clearly damaging their own reputation. Evidently the alternative, namely to kick the cheat out, would have been worse for Jerry and Shalane - because then that cheat might start spilling the beans.

I believe that she isn’t a doper. I believe that Centro believes she wasn’t doping.

HOWEVER: She was still caught with nandrolone levels above the legal limit for this test and did not conclusively prove it was from the burrito.

Whether innocently or not, tainted supplement or not, it was in her body and it falls upon her to prove how it got there. Just proclaiming she’s innocent doesn’t cut it.

Plot Thickener wrote:

CentroNO wrote:

Actual quote - "I know everything that she put in her body..." Any one else giggle at this comment like a mind in the gutter middle school kid?

I bet you do Centro... I bet you do.

So, did he intentionally BUY her that offal (tripas) burrito and told her it was carne asada instead? Centro would have learned that trick from Al Sal, "Here, eat this. Don't ask what it is. You don't need to know."

What if the team knew these burritos had small doses of nandrolone in them. And so they ate them daily and knew if they popped positive they could always say "must of been those crazy burritos!" Apparently all it took was a few google searches for them to "figure this out", who is to say they didn't already know. [i don't believe this is the case, just a funny what if ha]

Anyways, I don't know what to believe.

no clue wrote:

centro immediately averts his eyes from the camera as he starts the Houlihan topic

and keeps averting his eyes...

He does that the entire interview.

HashTag wrote:

Centro may be defending Shelby because she has dirt on him. One never knows what may happen when one plays these “hide the burrito” games.

You guys belong on q-anon

no clue wrote:

centro immediately averts his eyes from the camera as he starts the Houlihan topic

and keeps averting his eyes...

He could just be averting his eyes because she's his ex and people usually don't like talking about their ex. People tend to avert their eyes when they're lying... or when they're uncomfortable.