facts are facts wrote:
rojo wrote:
What a race.
HASSAN Sifan 3:53.63
KIPYEGON Faith 3:53.91
MUIR Laura 3:55.59
https://twitter.com/letsrundotcom/status/1403068273885843459Super shoes are worth one second a lap so she ran 3:57. Not so impressive
She wasn't wearing super shoes, had on her Nike Victory spikes. GOAT
griles17 wrote:
facts are facts wrote:
Super shoes are worth one second a lap so she ran 3:57. Not so impressive
She wasn't wearing super shoes, had on her Nike Victory spikes. GOAT
Nope everyone who runs a fast time wears super shoes
drocha86 wrote:
I was hoping GDS would have stayed closer to the top three and put up a 3:55-3:56 as well
She missed the boat. Got boxed in and stuck trying to run wide round traffic while the big names got away. By the time she cleared Hailu she was in no man's land. Needed to make sure she was right on the big three the whole time with no one in between.
facts are facts wrote:
griles17 wrote:
She wasn't wearing super shoes, had on her Nike Victory spikes. GOAT
Nope everyone who runs a fast time wears super shoes
It looks like she’s wearing nike air zoom victory and they are super spikes. They were inspired by the 1%. It has a carbon fiber plate and zoom foam. They’re $300.
alien wrote:
We are witnessing the women's GOAT. In her prime.
The logic for her being the GOAT doesn't compute. Her 10K WR just got beaten.
UltraDude wrote:
alien wrote:
We are witnessing the women's GOAT. In her prime.
The logic for her being the GOAT doesn't compute. Her 10K WR just got beaten.
Losing a world record has what to do exactly with being the GOAT? Look at her times. No one else is as fast or as good of a runner overall. She also completed the most insane double ever. We'll see how things pan out in Tokyo, but I mean... would anyone really take Gidey over Hassan in a head to head race? P sure Sifan is 3-0 rn in those matchups
Hats off to Hassan and Kipyegon. As good as she is and as much as it pains me to say this, Laura Muir will never win a global medal. She had NO answer once the kicking started and no way she bridges that gap in the next eight weeks. I can't help but wonder how Houlihan in top form would have fared in that sprint. My guess is just ahead of Muir but well behind Hassan and Kipyegon.
Hats off to Hassan and Kipyegon. As good as she is and as much as it pains me to say this, Laura Muir will never win a global medal. She had NO answer once the kicking started and no way she bridges that gap in the next eight weeks. I can't help but wonder how Houlihan in top form would have fared in that sprint. My guess is just ahead of Muir but well behind Hassan and Kipyegon.
Deanouk wrote:
There was a close up of the first 3's faces as they finished the race, which for me stated everything necessary: - there was not a trace of distress or tiredness on the faces of the first 2, who were pulling away from Muir with every stride. They were hardly breathing in a 3:53 1500m, and were full of energy after. Muir, on the other hand, was straining and grimacing with every stride in the last 50m, looked completely out of breath as she finished, and proceeded to sink to her knees in tiredness.
The contrast was stark. The reason for it was obvious. It is a shame the upcoming Olympics are going to be producing champions left, right and centre, who have clearly benefitted from lack of testing the past 6 months due to Covid. If I were Muir, I wouldn't bother.
Reminds me of when Coe broke the mile record in Oslo in 1979. All smiles and he jogged it off like it was nothing. Same story in Brussels in ‘81.
Pretty amazing you “wouldn’t bother” after getting 5th at the last World Championships and having two great seasons leading up to the Olympics. Says a lot about your mentality.
Kipyegon last year in the final when she tried to follow Hassan
That was super-cool and really convincing. It reminds me of that time when Ron Clarke set the 10000m world record and then came back 4 days later and beat Peter Snell in a 1500. Of course, he didn't actually do that, but he could have, because as everybody knows, setting a WR in the 10000m doesn't have any effect on you.
What about Raisin? wrote:
That was super-cool and really convincing. It reminds me of that time when Ron Clarke set the 10000m world record and then came back 4 days later and beat Peter Snell in a 1500. Of course, he didn't actually do that, but he could have, because as everybody knows, setting a WR in the 10000m doesn't have any effect on you.
Not nowadays. That's because "modern training" is so advanced that runners no longer have to do what Clarke did - which is run lots of miles and reps. They just put on a new pair of designer shoes and take the concoction their coach serves up to them.
ya, delux cool, i remember so well, i was one year old, when clark nearly broke the 1500 record and wasn't tired after his 10k record a couple of days before, impressive he closed near the 3k wr
i think his secret was corn flakes every morning.
that must be the ticket.
i wonder what they eat for breakfast now.?
I feel for Muir.
I'm sorry, but no way in hell is Sifan Hassan clean. Jarmila Kratochvílová 2.0.
douchouk wrote:
Deanouk wrote:
There was a close up of the first 3's faces as they finished the race, which for me stated everything necessary: - there was not a trace of distress or tiredness on the faces of the first 2, who were pulling away from Muir with every stride. They were hardly breathing in a 3:53 1500m, and were full of energy after. Muir, on the other hand, was straining and grimacing with every stride in the last 50m, looked completely out of breath as she finished, and proceeded to sink to her knees in tiredness.
The contrast was stark. The reason for it was obvious. It is a shame the upcoming Olympics are going to be producing champions left, right and centre, who have clearly benefitted from lack of testing the past 6 months due to Covid. If I were Muir, I wouldn't bother.
Reminds me of when Coe broke the mile record in Oslo in 1979. All smiles and he jogged it off like it was nothing. Same story in Brussels in ‘81.
Pretty amazing you “wouldn’t bother” after getting 5th at the last World Championships and having two great seasons leading up to the Olympics. Says a lot about your mentality.
funny.
coe was capable of much lower times than he achieved. true he ran a 144 without duress,
at peak, there were other races with cram when he was smashed physically.
none the less, blood doping was a major thing in 1980. and in Europe it was rampant.
during this period, english athletics is all quiet. it is reasonable to speculate, but there is only the toxoplasmosis thing coe had, other than that there's not much to go by, as opposed to current athletes who are surrounded by PEDs, coach, agent, busted athletes... and signature PED behavior.
check it, coe stumbled a bit, but was good to go soon after for a nice jog. versus the ethopian chick that was ready to party hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyss8ym2bq0note 2 operations on john walkers legs prior, which was the end of his era. though in his 30's he ran several 349 miles, NOT at a monaco, a normal setting.
in the end there is little to pin coe on. but he would have been doing something state of the art.
that would be for sure.
Iron Bars wrote:
I'm sorry, but no way in hell is Sifan Hassan clean. Jarmila Kratochvílová 2.0.
Whatever. One thing I've noticed is Sifan is actually getting prettier each year. I love watching her smile after she destroys the field.
Hassan was glowing.
I will buy this performance fresh.
I will by the 10k record by itself as well.
But 3:53 4 days later seems unbelievable.
Call me a skeptic or a hater if you wish.
reminds me of viren, a former hero, who i actually semi-met at the airport with a coach,
coghlan too, who was strikingly handsome, and his wife was beautiful beyond hollywood's best.
and rod dixon who was too, impossibly handsome at the time.
these guys were rock stars.
today they are nerds galore.
but, recently, i'm seeing a better specimen reappearing.
face it, a refugee boosted on PEDs doesn't do much for the casual fan.
facts are facts.
viren was dumped from hero status to zero status.
with this guy, you have all the goods.
the blood bags between heats.
the no lactic acid in the stretch.
the only guy doing it.
fake.
without blood bags, he's got no metals in the 5000, but he might have like sliver, bronze 10k, i mean he was a top guy for that.
