king999 wrote:
wow, Ed Eyestone should know better..and should be DQ'ed himself for FLAGRANT exaggeration!
The same coach who almost DQ’d Hocker for being involved in the troutner fall at west prelims.
https://youtu.be/2GR1xrLwHWwIf he wasn’t Cole MF Hocker, he might’ve actually been DQ’d.
Need a better angle. Looks like some contact to me.
Positioning is part of racing. You put yourself in a bad position and bad things might happen, so I'm not all that sympathetic to be honest.
It's a fair DQ.
CinqueMinute wrote:
Man, Kipsang is so smooth with so much speed and power. Bummer this guy is not going to be an Olympian. He has potential post-college to run sub-3:32.
I definitely think Kipsang, Hocker and Nuguse are all capable of 3:31-3:32, though the race may not play out to show it.
He needs Pat Henry to go to bat for him.
mehville wrote:
Positioning is part of racing. You put yourself in a bad position and bad things might happen, so I'm not all that sympathetic to be honest.
Yes, I'd say his slow-finishing teammate (West) screwed him as did his positioning. That being said, I thought he got lucky and deserved the Q. Not enough contact to warrant a DQ. Brown also is a legit contender to finish AA...after watching that BYU guy's terrible finish, I'd be surprised if he's not DFL. So it's a bit of a shame it worked out this way but ultimately the real race will be Hocker, Nuguse, Kipsang, Garcia-Romo and Suliman anyhow.
SayWhat29 wrote:
It's a fair DQ.
Where is anyone seeing anything that looks like Brown impeding another runner. I've just watched the race twice and I don't see it anywhere.
Brown went inside the BYU guy, but turned his shoulders as he dove by, form what I see, so that he didn't impede.
stupid dq
this is racing
Why are you guys surprised that BYU is soft?
Ok Ed/Talem, thanks for contributing
We'd need to see a head on angle. Why is it that the only time tv/video coverage of a meet DOESN'T show the runners heading to the finish line from in front of them is when you actually have use for that angle?
I don't get the dq from the angle we saw.
NCAAHater wrote:
Why are you guys surprised that BYU is soft?
Can confirm byu is on the boards a lot so be careful what you say!
Pretty soft of Ed. Reed is a little squid, let the kid advance to the final and place 9th. At least he’s not 25.
a debatable DQ should not exist.
needs to be a ridiculous and obvious thing
NOT something where you have to take out a microscope.
however
DQ of the officials needs to happen right now.
frickin idiots call it like a basketball game, where one foul, a debatable one, means the whole championship series down the drain for one team.
only in track.
remember that the rules came from more than 100 years ago when a 4 hour marathon got you a medal (not kidding).
Has anyone from Letsrun made any calls to get either head on video or a further explanation on the DQ? I replayed the video multiple times and don't see any indication of contact. And after the race is over the BYU runner doesn't seem concerned or agitated. How about a follow up from the 'journalists'?
There’s a few picture of the head on finish. I know Tinman photographer jkh photo posted one
That's not worthy of a DQ and Ed Eyestone knows it, what a loser.
NCAAHater wrote:
There’s a few picture of the head on finish. I know Tinman photographer jkh photo posted one
Screenshot here. Definitely looks like a bit of contact but still disagree with the DQ.
https://ibb.co/L0VLvM5My understanding of this rule has always been a runner can pass on the inside even if the leading runner is in lane 1- HOWEVER- if there is any contact at all, even a little bit, it’s an automatic DQ.
That’s always been my understanding, now I need to go see it in the book…
In person it looked like a clear DQ.. he bumped him pretty good from behind. Textbook DQ. That video posted in here is a terrible angle. ROJO is clueless as always.
Also these heats were rigged for Oregon anyway. That second heat was trash compared to first heat. Let’s drink those Oregon tears and move on.