Elias Ngeny WL 1:43.84 (previous best 1:49)

thanks for posting the race video.

JohnnyS wrote:

Not a relative of Noah Ngeny by any chance?

Good question - He looks a bit like him - and since NN is probably the most overlooked/forgotten talent the world has ever seen (beside Sileshi Sihine, who also was unlucky enough to peak in the shadow of a GOAT) I think it would be a great story for T&A if he is. :-)

Sweetness wrote:

CinqueMinute wrote:

Would love to see a video from the race.. see if he is more fluid like Rudisha or more power like Bungei... his form will dictate a lot of his potential, but the 800m just got more exciting.

Brazier (USA)

Lopez (MEX)

One of the KEN

One of the GBR

Until Brazier goes down, he's the favorite, although Lopez is having a Cruz-type season and is getting better every race and is super-consistent. Going to be amazing!

Lol. Funny you don't mention the guy who is having a better year than Brazier and the one most likely to win.

Honestly don’t know who you are referring to.

portsea57 wrote:

How does one pronounce his surname? I think the BBC commemtators used to call Noah, "Nee-yen" or something similar.

The announcer says it at 1:30:25 on the video.

Thank you to the poster who linked it.

Absurd. Two years at 1:49, then no results for almost two years and 1:43.

Sweetness wrote:

So why was Russia banned if we want to recognize greatness?

They were the 2nd most powerful force in T&F until the US/UK decided it was time to eliminate certain competition.

Russia was banned for doping all of its athletes year after year after year systematically and even breaking into the 2014 Winter Olympics testing lab and switching the samples. Totally deserved.

zcxvzxcv wrote:

Sweetness wrote:

So why was Russia banned if we want to recognize greatness?

They were the 2nd most powerful force in T&F until the US/UK decided it was time to eliminate certain competition.

Russia was banned for doping all of its athletes year after year after year systematically and even breaking into the 2014 Winter Olympics testing lab and switching the samples. Totally deserved.

BS of the highest order. Its just tin foil hat conspiracy. The Russia affair is a politically motivated witch hunt and its disgusting. And the reason why the 2016 Olympics did not matter and why the 2021 may not matter either if it stays this way.

Russia doped all its athletes? How dumb. There's as many individual training groups in Russia as there are in the US. Russia also has a more effective anti-doping organization in RUSADA.

The Russians found no evidence of some James Bond 007 secret spy doping program.

As it is, the leadership there states:

"Russia has never had and will never have a state-backed doping program. There is no place for doping in sports. Yes, we've found ourselves in a situation where they've applied unprecedented measures on our athletes. The fact that our team lacks so many members is regretful. It's hard to expect any result from our athletes when there are such changes. Right now we a following the motto 'It's not the winning but the taking part that counts,'" Smirnov said.

Their corrupt leaders claimed no corruption? You don't say!

Interesting. But when the corrupt leaders in the US say there is no corruption they mean it?

I thought we were going to follow what the leadership says and take that as the truth?

You take every word out of your glorious leftist leaders here as the word of god.

Pretty sure if the leadership there, who knows a lot more than mcLaren about whats going on , should be able to say whether or not there is a state backed program. Anything else is just conspiracy theory..

From a German coach:

German extreme swimmer Marco Henrichs, who is also a runner and coach, believes that the scrutiny of the Russian Olympic team has nothing to do with so-called “fair play,” and was initiated for another reason.

“There is no doubt that doping naturally exists in other countries and in Germany as well. I think that these intensive probes into Russian sport are partially used to create a negative impression of Russians,” Henrichs told RT.

wild east africa wrote:

I thought we were going to follow what the leadership says and take that as the truth?

How naive.

6336 wrote:

Not possible. Coevett years ago already has proved than Kenyans can't run fast anymore in the 8 and 15.

And this Ngeny guy probably is an age cheat, doper, rapes children and cheats in and other aspects in live.

But Max and Jake and Kyle will beat him easily

No, he'll probably deny one of them a medal and then get busted in a couple of years.

And if a 24 year old Brit went from 1:49 to 1:43 in a year and from 1:46 to 1:43 in a week, you'd be screaming Lord Coever Up.

Maybe relation to Noah Ngeny we should all remember him back in the 90s early 2000’s 800m specialist, 1000m record holder. Think he has a 3:28 to his name to.

I wouldn’t call a 1500m Olympic gold medalist and 3:43.3 guy an 800m specialist.

Anyway, this Ngeny is certainly in the testing pool now.

Coevett wrote:

6336 wrote:

Not possible. Coevett years ago already has proved than Kenyans can't run fast anymore in the 8 and 15.

And this Ngeny guy probably is an age cheat, doper, rapes children and cheats in and other aspects in live.

But Max and Jake and Kyle will beat him easily

No, he'll probably deny one of them a medal and then get busted in a couple of years.

And if a 24 year old Brit went from 1:49 to 1:43 in a year and from 1:46 to 1:43 in a week, you'd be screaming Lord Coever Up.

Your predictions were wrong as always, there are still newcomers from Kenya who reach world class.

Cruz went from 1:44 to 1:41.77 in one year.

What do you know about the training of Ngeny? The circumstances he trains? His life situation? His injuries? Nothing? Than shut up you disgrace of the human race.

6336 wrote:

Your predictions were wrong as always, there are still newcomers from Kenya who reach world class.

Cruz went from 1:44 to 1:41.77 in one year.

What do you know about the training of Ngeny? The circumstances he trains? His life situation? His injuries? Nothing? Than shut up you disgrace of the human race.

No doubt there are still dopers and hopefully they will be busted - preferably before they rob somebody of a medal.

Cruz was only 20 when he went from 1:44.07 to 1:41.7, and he'd improved by 3 seconds the year before that. How can you compare that to a 24 year old going from 1:49 to 1:43 you doping apologist imbecile?

Kenya has had 5 of their top 800m runners of recent years banned, you're excited about a 24 year old Kenyan managed by Jos Hermans going from 1:49 to 1:43, and I'm the disgrace for being suspicious about it?

Any top British cyclist probably was a doper, any top British sprinter probably was a doper.

But the middle distance runners don't know what doping is?

The new success of British middle distance running in recent years is as likely to be doping influenced as Kenyas success. Farah clean? Yeah. Kelly Holmes reaches new level at age 34 ?

basically clean.

I remember when Steele suddenly went from a nobody on the world stage to a 1:43 guy at age 30 lol.