Kids should be tracked into advanced math earlier, not later. I’ve seen so many good young math students that should be working on real algebra in elementary school that are instead stuck doing simple operations year after year because half the class can’t get the hang of it.
From the article. If this is the plan, then it's a great plan.
"He added that the concepts courses wouldn't eliminate algebraic ideas but rather interweave multiple strands of mathematics throughout the courses. Those included data analysis, mathematical modeling, functions and algebra, spatial reasoning and probability."
These concepts are far more important for college and future job prospects than the traditional mathematics courses that have been used for 50 years and are not helpful at all in a computerized work force.
Of course, a lot of times administrators say great things and the execution is abysmal. Either way, it doesn't impact me so I don't really care what Virginia does.
equality = e(liminate)quality.
alanson wrote:
equality = e(liminate)quality.
The problem is “equity,” not equality.
Equality would say everyone has the opportunity to take advanced courses. This is good.
Equity says everyone has to take the same courses. This is bad.
We are trying to start an accelerated math program for K-4 in my kid's (private) school. Learning number sense early on reaps dividends later.
Following for White Grievance Thread of the Day, but this was pretty much done earlier today, so this is just a sympathy follow, relly.
sbeefyk2 wrote:
From the article. If this is the plan, then it's a great plan.
"He added that the concepts courses wouldn't eliminate algebraic ideas but rather interweave multiple strands of mathematics throughout the courses. Those included data analysis, mathematical modeling, functions and algebra, spatial reasoning and probability."
These concepts are far more important for college and future job prospects than the traditional mathematics courses that have been used for 50 years and are not helpful at all in a computerized work force.
Of course, a lot of times administrators say great things and the execution is abysmal. Either way, it doesn't impact me so I don't really care what Virginia does.
You are just plain wrong. The courses that have been fought for the last 50 years are the foundation of science and math as we know it. They are the tools that have been used to build the internet and put men on the moon.
It’s stupid to substitute it for a surface level look at data analysis.
The idea is stupid and dumb.That would be like eliminating football,basketball,track,because
whites can't compete.
If you knucklebrains believe that Virginia, a state with enormous numbers of tech/stem/defense/IT employers is going to do something to reduce the competitiveness of its citizens and workforce....I don't know what to tell you.
If I recall correctly, it is you clowns who routinely rant about how "education" is failing and US kids are being left behind. No? Is that not you?
Well, Virginia is doing something other than the same old same old.
If you actually have an interest beyond partisan nonsense, see here:
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/mathematics/vmpi/index.shtml
and here, from the Univ of Texas, an initiative that the Virginia plan is based on.
https://www.utdanacenter.org/our-work/k-12-education/launch-years
But carry on with your attempts at "lib owning"...
And you might even take note of which states seem to have some skill as regards education.
Hint: They're mostly blue. And not red.
https://wallethub.com/edu/e/states-with-the-best-schools/5335
VA LOCAL MAN wrote:
If you knucklebrains believe that Virginia, a state with enormous numbers of tech/stem/defense/IT employers is going to do something to reduce the competitiveness of its citizens and workforce....I don't know what to tell you.
If I recall correctly, it is you clowns who routinely rant about how "education" is failing and US kids are being left behind. No? Is that not you?
Well, Virginia is doing something other than the same old same old.
If you actually have an interest beyond partisan nonsense, see here:
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/mathematics/vmpi/index.shtmland here, from the Univ of Texas, an initiative that the Virginia plan is based on.
https://www.utdanacenter.org/our-work/k-12-education/launch-years
The private sector and education sector are not linked. The companies will just hire people who got real math education somewhere else.
VA LOCAL MAN wrote:
But carry on with your attempts at "lib owning"...
And you might even take note of which states seem to have some skill as regards education.
Hint: They're mostly blue. And not red.
https://wallethub.com/edu/e/states-with-the-best-schools/5335
You sound like a real beacon of nonpartisanship. A true light in the darkness.
because it takes most african-americans 14 years* to definitively fail the arithmetic whites learn in 7.
* = including 2 kindergartens and 2 years of Head Start
OP -- do you think all students in America are on equal footing when it comes to education?
You can't just compare scores and say one group tries harder than the other. Don't post like this without talking about racism, generational wealth, redlining, access, etc.
C'mon, man.
yawner wrote:
Oh, and will everyone will really take the same thing? Sorry socialist libs! VDOE spokesperson acknowledged there will be differences in what people actually are taught: "Differentiated instruction is designed to provide the appropriate levels of challenge and academic rigor for each student.".
I’m a teacher, and a pretty good one if I’m being honest. But listen: “differentiation” is a myth. The idea that a teacher is creating special, individualized curriculum for each individual student in each class is farcical. At best, your kid is just getting extra busy work if they’re smart, or some extra hints if they aren’t.
“Differentiation” is just a Ministry of Truthish term that actually means exactly the opposite of what it sounds like. It is used to excuse and justify all manner of the REMOVAL of specialized instruction for students on both the top and bottom ends of the performance spectrum. Districts can kill off expensive SPED programs and politically messy G&T programs by putting all kids in the same classes but claiming they are somehow magically learning different things.
It’s a lie. Don’t accept it.
+1
NERunner00053 wrote:
OP -- do you think all students in America are on equal footing when it comes to education?
You can't just compare scores and say one group tries harder than the other. Don't post like this without talking about racism, generational wealth, redlining, access, etc.
C'mon, man.
It actually is that simple most of the time. Some students try harder then others. That’s the point of test scores. Contrary to what the left is pushing, math is not racist.
I teach middle school in Virginia, this is not as big of a deal as you all are making it. Math is just being deleveled. We did it with Language Arts, and there has been no issue. If a student wants to take a higher level math course in addition to the essential stuff, school districts will be able to take it. So if you’re a math-leaning student, you could be taking statistics AND your core math simultaneously.
Stop reading Fox News.
nevermorenevertheless wrote:
Where the heck do you live? Most high schools around me don't even have calculus as an offering since not enough students want to take it and they don't have any teacher who know how to do it. The big high schools usually have calculus and statistics offerings as their highest courses.
I’m pretty sure most high schools offer calculus. I went to a small public high school in rural Virginia and we had about 20 students taking it. Bigger schools will often offer linear algebra, differential equations, and multi-variable calculus. I majored in math in undergrad and I don’t think any of the math majors had not taken calc in HS. Unfortunately, the people who took and understand the benefit of an accelerated math and engineering curriculum tend not to be well represented among those responsible for developing publication education policy.
Math Student wrote:
I predict a huge shift to private schools over the next 5 years. Many have already done so due to the pandemic and CRT.
Charter schools too.