Rabio wrote:
I thought it was an autocalculation.
In the performing of workouts (or races) in the past, I vaguely recall my watch (Forerunner 945) providing an alert stating I had a new max heart rate, but it didn't change its internal setting to that new value, nor did it give the option (ask at the time of the alert) to have the watch change it to the new value, like it does when it informs me of a change in its perceived Lactate Threshold pace and LT Heart Rate.
Jack Daniels Calculator wrote:
dick vitale wrote:
Just run baby. Stop focusing on numbers.
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Rabio wrote:
Today I did a hard 7km for a tempo effort and my garmin watch showed to me that I was at 105% of max heart rate for several minutes at the end.
Normally my max heart rate is 190 but I was above 200 for several minutes.
I wanted to know if this is dangerous to run above your maximum and what are the risks?
It depends if you are dehydrayed. We sometimes have a higher or lower max hr depending on hydration status. It probably doesn't matter on cold days to have a higher than usual heart rate, but on warm and/or humid days, it's a sign that you need to be more cautious.
No one can say for sure without the tests, ECCO and dye etc.
Me , I've a family history of heart problems but I just get on it with , if I drop i drop
Dude must have been wearing an Airwavve mouthpiece!
Spinal Tap would be proud.
Alan
Rabio wrote:
Today I did a hard 7km for a tempo effort and my garmin watch showed to me that I was at 105% of max heart rate for several minutes at the end.
Normally my max heart rate is 190 but I was above 200 for several minutes.
I wanted to know if this is dangerous to run above your maximum and what are the risks?
There is really no limit and max HR depends on what you do. The more of your muscle mass you can enable, the harder you can go, the more adrenaline there is, the more demand there is for blood, the higher the rate.
The heart is controlled by the electrical signals and as long as the heart receives a strong signal and is healthy and strong and can contract and stroke fully well, everything is safe. Training and use of the heart is extremely important for the contracting ability.
if the heart suddenly beats at a rate 50-100 over normal, it is something that is not right, but as long as you are approx at the normal rates, it is quite normal.
So max HR is not a max number programmed into your "brain", but a result of your effort.
Jon Arne Glomsrud wrote:
Rabio wrote:
Today I did a hard 7km for a tempo effort and my garmin watch showed to me that I was at 105% of max heart rate for several minutes at the end.
Normally my max heart rate is 190 but I was above 200 for several minutes.
I wanted to know if this is dangerous to run above your maximum and what are the risks?
There is really no limit and max HR depends on what you do. The more of your muscle mass you can enable, the harder you can go, the more adrenaline there is, the more demand there is for blood, the higher the rate.
The heart is controlled by the electrical signals and as long as the heart receives a strong signal and is healthy and strong and can contract and stroke fully well, everything is safe. Training and use of the heart is extremely important for the contracting ability.
if the heart suddenly beats at a rate 50-100 over normal, it is something that is not right, but as long as you are approx at the normal rates, it is quite normal.
So max HR is not a max number programmed into your "brain", but a result of your effort.
That is not completely correct. There are more variables involved. You have to also consider blood volume, both red blood cells and plasma.
Come on.
You gotta give 110%. You're not even doing that.
It's amazing that people on this board lack understanding of rather basic physiology.
There's a node in the heart that acts like a pacemaker for your heart.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinoatrial_node
Your true max heart rate is defined by this organ, how often can it generate electric impulses.
It differs a lot in different people. It's genetic.
Your ability to drive this organ to its max might be limited, but there's no "running MHR", "cycling MHR" and "sleeping MHR". There's one single genetically defined and age affected MHR, some activities might recruit enough muscle mass to reach it, some not. Hard uphill running usually gets you close enough, if you're fresh.
You shouldn't be running with a very high heart rate if it's a tempo.
I would say it's more important to avoid running at 0% of max heart rate. Troll recognizes troll.
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You shouldn't be running with a very high heart rate if it's a tempo.
I would say it's more important to avoid running at 0% of max heart rate. Troll recognizes troll.
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And avoid running at 0% of min. HR
I was told that a more accurate assessment, without doing real tests was:
220- 30 (years old assuming you were in shape) and add 10 beats per decade.
I'm 62, so:
220-62 = 158
158 + 30= 188
Which seems about right. I have, according to my watch which could be wrong, gone above 190 when doing speed work.
Haha! Didn`t you know? It`s only possible to run 100% of max heart rate!!!
Naperville Runner wrote:
No, congratulations you just redefined what your max heart rate actually is. I wouldn't necessarily reset all training to use 200 as your new 100% but basically when you exceed 100% of your maximum heart rate you have (sort of by definition) established a new maximum
Maybe, but there's also a condition known as afib which can come and go and which your HR can spike beyond it's normal capabilities. Athletes overrepresent for this condition.
I'm not saying this is what happened, but it wouldn't be completely unusual
My watch's heart rate monitor is usually wildly inaccurate for me, but they work well for some people. Maybe it just has trouble reading your pulse sometimes.
I had a run recently where it said I was over my max HR for an hour. I have to wear a chest strap if I want an accurate reading.
Darby wrote:
It's amazing that people on this board lack understanding of rather basic physiology.
There's a node in the heart that acts like a pacemaker for your heart.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinoatrial_nodeYour true max heart rate is defined by this organ, how often can it generate electric impulses.
It differs a lot in different people. It's genetic.
Your ability to drive this organ to its max might be limited, but there's no "running MHR", "cycling MHR" and "sleeping MHR". There's one single genetically defined and age affected MHR, some activities might recruit enough muscle mass to reach it, some not. Hard uphill running usually gets you close enough, if you're fresh.
If you re gonna lecture people about "rather basic physiology" then you should learn a bit more about the variables that affect heart rate. Hydration status and sodium retention/depletion alone will alter the functional range which is relevant to the weather conditions we train and race in.
And then there are the hematological factors, which could fill a whole thread.
This has to be a troll.
If your 5k PR is 18:06, and then you run 17:38, are you gonna say “last week I ran nearly 30 seconds faster than my PR. I can’t believe that me, someone that has a PR of 18:06 was able to do that.”
No.
Your PR is 17:38. Your max heart rate is probably actually around 200, and maybe you just pushed yourself harder than you ever have, which is a good thing. Congrats.
What about all the coaches and motivational speakers who ask that we give 110%? How can they all be wrong?
(sarcasm alert)