Di Maria, one of the lowest BMI’s in professional soccer, without a doubt.
Di Maria, one of the lowest BMI’s in professional soccer, without a doubt.
Yo Sara ian wrote:
Is he also a very nice guy who prays every day?
You decide for yourself:
https://theathletic.com/2213536/2020/11/23/david-villa-nycfc-alleged-harassment/First of all, it's 3:49/km, not 3:43. Not that it would matter that much, because it's not that impressive for a guy who was an elite athlete his whole life. But good for him that he keeps in shape, and has found a passion in different sport.
I would bet my life that he could run good 3 minutes faster during his heyday, however, nobody could have force him at that time. Most footballers can run quite well, even those that walk a lot during the game. Coming from a football backgound, at 16, without any specific running workouts outside the daily football practices, I ran 35:15, and wasn't even the best on the team. A first division team in U18 league, but still not professional.
I agree that mesomorphs have a hard time with sustained tempo running, but they can still hack it as a punishment from the coach. No one, who has a professional contract, even in weaker leagues, and plays in the field, have a problem to run under 40mins. Even the guys built like Lukaku.
Villa is quite small for a footballer, and at around 70kg, he can cruise to sub 40min 10km, even as a retired player.
now, if he would attempt sub 2:50 marathon, then OK, that would be solid for a speedy guy. Heck, there are even retired pro hockey players, good 30kgs heavier that run quite fast over longer distances. Why wouldn't a footballer?
Ghost1 wrote:
Mr Smith, if you improve your PB from 42 minutes to 38 minutes for 10 km then we will be raving about you all over the Internet and we will make sure to highlight your achievement because believe me there’s a big difference between 42 minutes and 38 minutes for 10 km even though you may not see it that way. In addition, in my previous post I outlined why soccer players are not necessarily suited to endurance running - what I mean by sustained decent speed endurance running because of the nature of the sport.
Oh, get over your infatuation with Villa.
StoppitSmith is not a ex pro player that ran 10km in every game.
AFL players run 15:xx for 5km. AFL linesmen have a benchmark of sub 38min 10km.
Jenson Button (F1) ran a 35min 10km in a 1.5/40/10 triathlon, and did 79:09 in the HM and has done Kona Ironman
Start a thread when a footballer runs 30min
Sure thats pretty impressive but nothing amazing. I haven't run in a while and could get off the couch and break 40 for 10k right now. Just need some real talent to break 40 off no training but this guy has been running in soccer his whole life.
She is not attractive enough for me to take her claims seriously
Ghost1 wrote:
Yo Sara ian wrote:
Is he also a very nice guy who prays every day?
Yep he seems to be a really nice guy but not sure if he prays every day.
He comes from a very humble background, his parents were farmers.
He’s very unassuming and talk to everybody. Is the total opposite to people like Cristiano Ronaldo.
You need to save some of his 'saintly' attributes for when he tests positive.
That's when you really come out with the 'glowing' references.
I'm 39 and run sub 35. Where's my rave? my parade?
Can I get a few million from a soccer contract?
Gotta love LetsRun. Poster creates a post wanting to discuss something he thinks is unique or special, then everyone sh*ts on the post and argues that the performance isn't unique, isn't special, and is in fact below-average and deserves derision.
Most of these posters have no freaking clue how different distance running is from professional soccer match fitness (see the guy who compared U18 "gold" division soccer to FC Barcelona and the Spanish National team). As Ghost alluded to, soccer players just don't complete medium-intensity steady state running . The game has changed. Soccer professionals are incredibly explosive and dynamic in their movements, but a 400m sprint is about twice as long as they are used to running. I bet a lot of professional soccer players can rub a sub-25 200m....but I'm not sure how many of them can just up-and-run sub-60 for a 400. They don't train for it whatsoever.
The same goes for a 10k. That's about the distance they cover in a 90 minute match. Except they cover that distance either walking, slowly jogging, or sprinting/accelerating....with sprinting/accelerating making up the majority of the movements that cover the 5-6 miles of distance. They don't train like a distance runner does by running more mileage to become aerobically efficient at a slow pace. They don't run tempo runs at all to work on lactate threshold over distance. They are not trained like a runner is trained.
Soccer players are going to have more potential to be successful than your average runner because they're genetically gifted, likely have an economic running form, and have a good heart and lungs to start training hard. But you still need to train for your specific event.
David Villa's first 10k is promising. If he continues working at it, I think there's a lot more potential there to be a good masters runner.
Soccer Guy wrote:
Gotta love LetsRun. Poster creates a post wanting to discuss something he thinks is unique or special, then everyone sh*ts on the post and argues that the performance isn't unique, isn't special, and is in fact below-average and deserves derision.
Most of these posters have no freaking clue how different distance running is from professional soccer match fitness (see the guy who compared U18 "gold" division soccer to FC Barcelona and the Spanish National team). As Ghost alluded to, soccer players just don't complete medium-intensity steady state running . The game has changed. Soccer professionals are incredibly explosive and dynamic in their movements, but a 400m sprint is about twice as long as they are used to running. I bet a lot of professional soccer players can rub a sub-25 200m....but I'm not sure how many of them can just up-and-run sub-60 for a 400. They don't train for it whatsoever.
The same goes for a 10k. That's about the distance they cover in a 90 minute match. Except they cover that distance either walking, slowly jogging, or sprinting/accelerating....with sprinting/accelerating making up the majority of the movements that cover the 5-6 miles of distance. They don't train like a distance runner does by running more mileage to become aerobically efficient at a slow pace. They don't run tempo runs at all to work on lactate threshold over distance. They are not trained like a runner is trained.
Soccer players are going to have more potential to be successful than your average runner because they're genetically gifted, likely have an economic running form, and have a good heart and lungs to start training hard. But you still need to train for your specific event.
David Villa's first 10k is promising. If he continues working at it, I think there's a lot more potential there to be a good masters runner.
Well stated. “ They don't run tempo runs at all to work on lactate threshold over distance. They are not trained like a runner is trained. ” this key statement should be emphasized.
Yep, Overall, world class soccer players are a lot more athletic on a global level compared with skinny distance runners, and even though 38 minutes for 39-year-old may not seem impressive this type of effort is really very commendable for soccer players who focus on anaerobic explosiveness in games.
If David Villa seriously trained as a runner, many pundits think that he could get down to 34 or 35 minutes for 10 km but it would take some sacrifice and a lifestyle that may not be suited to a former world-class soccer star.
Remember Ronnie O’Sullivan, the World class snooker player, lost a lot of weight and became quite a good 10 km runner, clocking around 34 minutes after a couple of years of training in Essex, England.
Ronnie O’Sullivan, World class snooker player and 34 minute 10 km runner. Ronnie is in the green vest ahead of the pack running for Woodford Green in the Essex league in Great Britain.
Ronnie - world class snooker icon.
It's good considering he's clearly over race weight. Football players are more fit than you think.
I used to run laps of Claybury with Gareth Bale when he was at Spurs - he was in good shape and probably sub 35 10k
Cheers,
Paul M
A hero to some and man to be admired by his fanboys. A scourge to others:
"This behavior included unnecessary physical contact, teasing, and comments regarding clothing and appearance. The club found that this behavior was inappropriate and unacceptable."
While the statement didn't mention Villa by name, sources told ESPN that the investigation confirmed that Villa touched the employee in a way that was inappropriate and made the employee feel uncomfortable.
roller coaster wrote:
Nice to see a former athlete staying in shape, but that's not an impressive time. No one is "raving," and he is not about to start busting his @ss to be a competitive master.
Yeah it's not. He would have had to have done at least a 31:45.78 or better to be considered good.
WHy did he run this so slow? That sucks.
The key for O’Sullivan to get down to 34 minutes for 10 km bring his time down from around 42 minutes as a start, was doing intervals on the track with British club Woodford Green athletics.
If Villa did the same thing and started doing intervals on the track with a club in the Madrid area he too would improve greatly and possibly surpass O’Sullivans time for 34 minutes.
Before getting into running O’Sullivan lived on fast food and had very bad habits and was around 15 to 16 stone in weight, around 230 pounds (104kg). After a couple of years of training well for running doing around 50 miles a week including intervals and changing his diet to a more healthy one, O’Sullivan dropped his weight down to around 70 KG/155 pounds.
Williams Racing F1 wrote:
It's good considering he's clearly over race weight. Football players are more fit than you think.
I used to run laps of Claybury with Gareth Bale when he was at Spurs - he was in good shape and probably sub 35 10k
Cheers,
Paul M
Bale is an outlier, even among world-class soccer players. Definitely one of the best runners in soccer of all time, A legend.