Shock in Norway, cross country ski star Petter Northug convicted, goes to prison

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

It always amazes me how eager people on the internet seem to be to see others get dealt with harshly by the justice system. There’s always calls for harsher sentences, cavalier jokes about what might happen to them inside, etc. Folks seem to revel in it, and get off on it. Justice is one thing, and there’s nothing wrong with being glad when it is rightly applied. But there’s a certain type of glee that people show that goes too far. If the idea of a human being in a cage makes you too happy you ought to examine yourself. It’s one of the ugliest aspects of human nature.

The acts that put them in there are uglier.

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

It always amazes me how eager people on the internet seem to be to see others get dealt with harshly by the justice system. There’s always calls for harsher sentences, cavalier jokes about what might happen to them inside, etc. Folks seem to revel in it, and get off on it. Justice is one thing, and there’s nothing wrong with being glad when it is rightly applied. But there’s a certain type of glee that people show that goes too far. If the idea of a human being in a cage makes you too happy you ought to examine yourself. It’s one of the ugliest aspects of human nature.

I do agree with you but I understand the other side. Imagine if this guy had smashed into your family car killing all your loved ones just because he is so cool he can drive at 125 mph (and using the phone at the same time) on a 50 mph zone?

Ghost1 wrote:

Typical Norway prison pictured here. The irony is that despite the very comfortable conditions in all Norwegian prisons and jails, recidivism rates are very low in Scandinavian countries.

https://images.app.goo.gl/rZ6WrBqEH37e8xgn7

Looks like my college dorm room

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

It always amazes me how eager people on the internet seem to be to see others get dealt with harshly by the justice system. There’s always calls for harsher sentences, cavalier jokes about what might happen to them inside, etc. Folks seem to revel in it, and get off on it. Justice is one thing, and there’s nothing wrong with being glad when it is rightly applied. But there’s a certain type of glee that people show that goes too far. If the idea of a human being in a cage makes you too happy you ought to examine yourself. It’s one of the ugliest aspects of human nature.

What are you talking about? On this thread, where are the "jokes about what might happen to them inside, etc."?? If anything the OP seems on the skier's side, calling the situation sad. All that because he's a talented athlete. Who cares that he can ski??

Let me rephrase you:

It always amazes me to see how eager people on the internet seem to be to EXCUSE others for RISKING KIDS LIVES FOR FUN.

Am I the only one imagining a Ricky Bobby saying I wanna go fast when they read this?

Mountain guy wrote:

What are you talking about? On this thread, where are the "jokes about what might happen to them inside, etc."?? If anything the OP seems on the skier's side, calling the situation sad. All that because he's a talented athlete. Who cares that he can ski??

Let me rephrase you:

It always amazes me to see how eager people on the internet seem to be to EXCUSE others for RISKING KIDS LIVES FOR FUN.

Correct, this is a typical Ghost thread where he posts more then half the posts on the thread and subtly/not-so-subtly implies that some obscure sport figure is being too-harshly treated. Maybe he's trying to float the platitude that it's unfortunate for a sport figure to fall into these problems, but that would just be trite to make a thread about.

The fact is: the judgement fits Norway's system pretty spot-on, based on their typical consequences and Petter's history. Sure, there aren't many Norwegians taking part in this behaviour, especially at an athlete or celebrity level, but it's not uncommon to have one bad apple.

Drunk Driving baseline penalties:

It seems like Ghost is trying to imply because of Petters passport+accomplishments+notoriety that he should get a pass? And that somehow it's a really big deal that he'll lose his license??? Spoiler: he'll be just fine.

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

It always amazes me how eager people on the internet seem to be to see others get dealt with harshly by the justice system. There’s always calls for harsher sentences, cavalier jokes about what might happen to them inside, etc. Folks seem to revel in it, and get off on it. Justice is one thing, and there’s nothing wrong with being glad when it is rightly applied. But there’s a certain type of glee that people show that goes too far. If the idea of a human being in a cage makes you too happy you ought to examine yourself. It’s one of the ugliest aspects of human nature.

Kind of like the people who are eager to see businesses forced to closed and celebrate being told to wear a mask. It's almost like they are happy to see people sick and die because they can use it as an excuse to tell other people what they can and can't do. Control freaks. It’s one of the ugliest aspects of human nature.

Runner10287 wrote:

Kind of like the people who are eager to see businesses forced to closed and celebrate being told to wear a mask. It's almost like they are happy to see people sick and die because they can use it as an excuse to tell other people what they can and can't do. Control freaks. It’s one of the ugliest aspects of human nature.

Nice try, cretin. Thanks for tossing your anger-biased red herring into this thread.

Please provide consistent and sizeable proof that there is a large group of people who WANT those businesses to close and WANT to wear a mask. I have yet to meet one who personally wants either.

Lol "provide proof" is such a weak strawman. I mean is this what you losers are taught these days? That every comment made has to be backed 100% with empirical evidence?

It's call reading the tea leaves to formulate an opinion. Seriously go read any comments section on any article reporting a new lockdown or mask mandate extension. You clown.

why did he spontaneously keep repeating the same offence every day?

was it a new speed camera or trap on a road he always speeds on?

Ghost1 wrote:

Typical Norway prison pictured here. The irony is that despite the very comfortable conditions in all Norwegian prisons and jails, recidivism rates are very low in Scandinavian countries.

https://images.app.goo.gl/rZ6WrBqEH37e8xgn7

Where is this taken from?

Runner10287 wrote:

Kind of like the people who are eager to see businesses forced to closed and celebrate being told to wear a mask. It's almost like they are happy to see people sick and die because they can use it as an excuse to tell other people what they can and can't do. Control freaks. It’s one of the ugliest aspects of human nature.

Where are you even coming from with this? Kook.

Not really implying he (Northug) should get a pass because what he did on the roads was very dangerous and he should be penalized for that. However, having his driving license taken away from him would be a very, very severe punishment especially in a country like Norway where outside of Oslo a car would really be necessary to be able to live normally. Petter Northug really seems to have some type of psychological problem which therapy or other treatments might help with. This is the second recorded time and hopefully there will be no third recorded time.

I have visited Denmark and Sweden and I’ve noticed that when young people get together to drink it’s like all or nothing which seems misplaced. Perhaps this is the only way for a basically introverted/ cultural norm society can let their hair down every now and then. People in Nordic countries almost feel pressurized to drink on weekends, even young people aged 14 and above I believe.

Oops, looks like I was wrong about the young drinking age in Norway, my bad.

Quote: (awcoslo.org)

“ Alcohol in Norway

You have to be 18 years old to buy alcohol (wine, beer) but 20 to purchase hard liquor (anything with an alcohol content of 22%).

Most bars and clubs have an age restriction, usually 20-21 years of age.

Grocery stores sell beer and cider but are not permitted to sell anything above 4.7% alcohol content, and are only allowed to sell alcohol before 8 PM on weekdays and before 6 PM on Saturdays and not at all on Sundays and some holidays including Ascension Day (Kristi himmelfartsdag), the eves of Christmas (jul) and New Year (nyttårs), Easter (påske), and Whitsunday/Pentecost (pinse), and the public holidays (offentilige høytidsdager) 1st and 17th of May and on voting days at both the national and local levels (stemmedagen for stortingsvalg, fulkevalg og kommunevalg).

Liquor, wine, strong beers and ciders (i.e. anything stronger than 4.7%), is sold through the state-run Vinmonopolet (literally, the wine monopoly) shops. There are 272 Vinmonopolet shops in Norway. The monopoly shops generally close at 6 PM on weekdays and 3 PM on Saturdays. Check the opening times for individual stores.”

However, not sure how flexible or not the law is in actuality.

Ahmdabess wrote:

Ghost1 wrote:

Typical Norway prison pictured here. The irony is that despite the very comfortable conditions in all Norwegian prisons and jails, recidivism rates are very low in Scandinavian countries.

https://images.app.goo.gl/rZ6WrBqEH37e8xgn7

Where is this taken from?

The foot of the bed, by the looks of it

Interesting that the guy is getting 8 months or whatever, when Norway's very own Varg Vikernes murdered someone and burnt down several ancient stave churches, admitted it, then fled jail (years later) and was caught with guns and similar things, and only served 14 years total.

14 years is a very long sentence in Norway.

Life sentences or even 20+ years are relatively rare.

Different ideas about the role of imprisonment.

return to index wrote:

I think that he should get more time. It's just a matter of time before her murders someone with his car. I have no sympathy for reckless drivers, and this guy was driving at 200 km/h, under the influence, AND on the phone? Come on now.

If he's suicidal, I feel bad for him and his family, but he has NO right to endanger other lives because of that.

To be fair, he did not drive under the influence on these occasions.

He did film himself while seriously speeding,

The DUI was a few years back when he crashed in a roundabout, ran, and then initially said that a friend of his drove the car when interrogated by police on the next day.

For the metric challenged he was doing over 120mph in a 50mph zone.