It's mainly the people that have them in while they're on singletrack trails. No amount of yelling "on your left" will penetrate their noise cancelling headphones, and either they get scared when you pass or won't let you pass until you have already slowed down behind them. I personally don't wear them bc running on streets or trails while not being aware of cars or other people is not smart. I don't really feel the need to wear them either, my surroundings are entertainment enough.
Are people carrying their phone with them as well and how?
I certainly don’t run with a phone.
RealrunnerThis name belongs to a registered account wrote:
airpods wrote:
I don’t get it. Running is good. Music is good. Together...bad? I don’t get the snootitude on this.
Real runners don't need a crutch like music. They can run without it.
The question remains: why look down on them? Do you look down on everyone who isn't a "real runner"? Most of the best people I know aren't real runners.
I run with a phone on an armband during the winter. Reasoning is that it is usually quite icy around where I live and if I get hurt I don’t know want to be stranded alone at 4am in the morning in the 20 degree weather.
It's only real runners who do that, and if you were a real runner then you'd understand why.
so...why look down on them? wrote:
The question remains: why look down on them? Do you look down on everyone who isn't a "real runner"? Most of the best people I know aren't real runners.
Are you calling balls and strikes from the left field bleachers?
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8gjbxqA2vk/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_linkRealrunnerThis name belongs to a registered account wrote:
airpods wrote:
I don’t get it. Running is good. Music is good. Together...bad? I don’t get the snootitude on this.
Real runners don't need a crutch like music. They can run without it.
True
I don't really look down on them, but think they're missing part of what makes running great, at least for me (time by yourself, time with friends, time with nature, etc.).
Because they are taller?
On a serious note: depending on the situation it could make it hard for the person with headphones to hear you coming up behind them like on a narrow trail or even a bike path that is not very wide and the person is running in the middle.
I used to never run with headphones, but I turned into even more of a hobbyjogger and use the time to listen to podcasts. I find it enjoyable but when I was training I wanted to focus on the running and how my body felt.
highhoppingworm wrote:I run with a phone on an armband during the winter. Reasoning is that it is usually quite icy around where I live and if I get hurt I don’t know want to be stranded alone at 4am in the morning in the 20 degree weather.
That's where a real runner would just get up shake it off and continue on. Plus we didn't have cell phones back in the 70's and 80's.
Is this 'real runner' gang a really cool and hip gang to be a member of? Maybe you could all wear arm bands or matching t shirts to show everyone your a member of this elite group! People will be sooo impressed!
I wear headphones , sometimes even carry a phone, I do this because this is the 21st century and I can. I even sometimes stop at traffic lights and, wait for it...just stand there waiting, yeah I can hear your mouths hit the floor on that one. Olympic qualification will just have to wait for me I guess.
Yeah, I wear headphones when i run. Every single time. It's a blast.
I don't care if anyone likes it or not what i am doing.
I don't believe it makes me any slower or appreciably less safe. But if it does, that is my decision.
If it annoys anyone, well, that's your problem, and not mine.
I don’t care if you wear headphones provided you are still aware of your surroundings.
Is okay if running at home on a treadmill. Running on a road - dangerous not be able to hear clearly. If a woman (primarily), dangerous as you can't hear someone approaching, even if on a car-free trail.
thoughts and prayers wrote:
I don’t care if you wear headphones provided you are still aware of your surroundings.
And why would it be any concern of yours? We have laws and some of them involve public safety. I follow those. Beyond that, it is my choice.
everybody all the time wrote:
thoughts and prayers wrote:
I don’t care if you wear headphones provided you are still aware of your surroundings.
And why would it be any concern of yours? We have laws and some of them involve public safety. I follow those. Beyond that, it is my choice.
Because you’re clueless and in our way on the path. You probably run in the middle too Mr. Only Law Abiding Citizen
Walmslord wrote:
everybody all the time wrote:
And why would it be any concern of yours? We have laws and some of them involve public safety. I follow those. Beyond that, it is my choice.
Because you’re clueless and in our way on the path. You probably run in the middle too Mr. Only Law Abiding Citizen
If one a narrow path or trail or sidewalk, you just have to raise your voice a little bit. Like a notch, not scream like someone trying to impart punishment.
That's all it takes, and the headphone guy can continue running for miles as he/she enjoys. And you were only inconvenienced in the slightest little bit for a second or two.
Seems like not much more than a common courtesy.
I suspect you don't see it that way, though.
Hey, we are all runners in society that doesn't value things like that, so maybe we can just appreciate each other and lighten up a little bit?
What drives you is not what drives everyone else.
everybody all the time wrote:
Yeah, I wear headphones when i run. Every single time. It's a blast.
I don't care if anyone likes it or not what i am doing.
I don't believe it makes me any slower or appreciably less safe. But if it does, that is my decision.
If it annoys anyone, well, that's your problem, and not mine.
If it annoys Jack, why is that my problem?
I sort of straddle the line on this one.
On one hand, I agree with the points that some of you made about feeling recharged running alone and being with nature. I think some of my best emotional recharging occurs when I am training hard, focusing on running, and occasionally letting my mind wander. I think music can screw up your cadence a bit and it may make hard training tougher. I hate runners who are clueless to their surroundings too, so it can be annoying for other runners.
On the other hand, there are some days where you are down in the dumps, or its especially nice outside, or the mood strikes, and you would prefer to listen to music on an easy day. I love throwing my phone in an armband, putting on my headphones, and cruising for a 1.5-2 hour long run while getting lost in a DJ mix (shoutout to Above & Beyond and Eric Prydz's essential mixes). I live in Chicago, and a few of these long runs on the lakeshore path each summer are amazing.
So, big picture, I get why some runners look down on headphone users if they think those runners are using the headphones as a crutch, or are clueless using them, or missing out. But those judgmental runners also need to understand that occasionally they're missing out too.
CrispyChicken wrote:
but I certainly scare the crap out of them when I pass them on the trail and they had no clue that I was approaching them from behind. .
I scare people ALL THE TIME even before I pass them on the trail and none of them are wearing headphones. Most aren't expecting somebody coming from behind that fast and probably think it is some sort of animal.
I wear headphones all the time when I run and I know for a FACT CrispyChicken has never scared me because he would NEVER BE ABLE TO CATCH ME on a trail!!