hey 'coach', what do you think is the max potential of this mediocre at mid d guy?
hey 'coach', what do you think is the max potential of this mediocre at mid d guy?
hello psychopath. that sub4 quote is by xc 'coach' and I was arguing against it. why would you attribute that nonsense to me?
240k a year get rekt by lightning
My bad. I copy and pasted the quote block of text and didn't change the name or proofread. I didn't read your side argument comments with the coach until now. I thought the coaches comments seemed overly dramatic, but you're taking this way too seriously.
Running and Lifting wrote:
Came across this video on youtube. Very Impressive , and just about the most legit way you can film yourself doing a time trial. Kinda ruins it by flopping around like an idiot at the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W2lLFWmQ2Y
This is cool.
The squats easy for him due to leveraging factors though.
His back looks almost straight up and down on the way up due to his build.
It's easier to squat for guys like that who can keep their back straight.
Overall a really good effort.
Now that he's accomplished this, he should see if he can get his squat to 565 for 1 and a sub 11 in the 100 meter dash on the same day.
Dude ran a sub-5 off little training and with at least 50 lbs of "useless"muscle. He clearly has sub-4 in him with proper training and weight loss. Sub-4 is still a pretty good accomplishment, but that doesn't mean a "non-runner" can't have the potential to do it, if they put in the work.
khorrps wrote:
hey 'coach', what do you think is the max potential of this mediocre at mid d guy?
you have an odd definition of mediocre.
his time is mediocre, in the grand scheme of things, but he is far from mediocre.
high school xc coach wrote:
khorrps wrote:
hey 'coach', what do you think is the max potential of this mediocre at mid d guy?
you have an odd definition of mediocre.
his time is mediocre, in the grand scheme of things, but he is far from mediocre.
Let's not forget how strong he finished, sub 4:50 should be in the cards.
I think the point of this is that in speaking to Adam, he simply wouldn't be able to get down the 145lbs or so at his frame to even start an attempt at a sub-4:00 mile. The loss in weight would tremendously change his biomechanics. Right now he's forcing it. Great talent, but can't every single world class Cross-Fitter run a sub-5:00/mile? Also, high school coach, not sure of your personal PRs but I was a very, very good running in my high school and college years and did not sub-4:10. I think you're overestimating how "easy" it can be.
Nutsack McGee wrote:
My bad. I copy and pasted the quote block of text and didn't change the name or proofread. I didn't read your side argument comments with the coach until now. I thought the coaches comments seemed overly dramatic, but you're taking this way too seriously.
i think this is fair. given the chance to do it over again, id revise my comment to this guy MIGHT have the potential to go sub 4. I don't see any possibility of him being anything worse than 4:20 potential, assuming he started at appropriate age, didn't have useless weight, was properly coached, and isn't injury prone.
Sapel wrote:
I think the point of this is that in speaking to Adam, he simply wouldn't be able to get down the 145lbs or so at his frame to even start an attempt at a sub-4:00 mile. The loss in weight would tremendously change his biomechanics. Right now he's forcing it. Great talent, but can't every single world class Cross-Fitter run a sub-5:00/mile? Also, high school coach, not sure of your personal PRs but I was a very, very good running in my high school and college years and did not sub-4:10. I think you're overestimating how "easy" it can be.
Sapel, i don't think he could get to such a low time at this point in his life. My comment was based on an imaginary world where he chose running from a young age.
Sapel wrote:
I think the point of this is that in speaking to Adam, he simply wouldn't be able to get down the 145lbs or so at his frame to even start an attempt at a sub-4:00 mile. The loss in weight would tremendously change his biomechanics. Right now he's forcing it. Great talent, but can't every single world class Cross-Fitter run a sub-5:00/mile? Also, high school coach, not sure of your personal PRs but I was a very, very good running in my high school and college years and did not sub-4:10. I think you're overestimating how "easy" it can be.
He has the same body frame as Chris Solinsky's, and Solinsky is even taller. If Solinsky could get to 160 pounds in his prime, why can't this guy lose 50-60 lbs from 215lbs?
Nutsack McGee wrote:
My bad. I copy and pasted the quote block of text and didn't change the name or proofread. I didn't read your side argument comments with the coach until now. I thought the coaches comments seemed overly dramatic, but you're taking this way too seriously.
seems you're the one with seriousness, nutsack
high school xc coach wrote:
you have an odd definition of mediocre.
his time is mediocre, in the grand scheme of things, but he is far from mediocre.
I said mediocre for mid d. pretty sure he wouldn't go under 4:30 no matter what. at worst, most definitely not under 4:20. ok that's good, but not outstanding specimen like you say and still a different planet from sub4
George213 wrote:
Dude ran a sub-5 off little training and with at least 50 lbs of "useless"muscle. He clearly has sub-4 in him with proper training and weight loss. Sub-4 is still a pretty good accomplishment, but that doesn't mean a "non-runner" can't have the potential to do it, if they put in the work.
some people from other sports have the potential, but not this guy, regardless of work
high school xc coach wrote:
Nutsack McGee wrote:
My bad. I copy and pasted the quote block of text and didn't change the name or proofread. I didn't read your side argument comments with the coach until now. I thought the coaches comments seemed overly dramatic, but you're taking this way too seriously.
i think this is fair. given the chance to do it over again, id revise my comment to this guy MIGHT have the potential to go sub 4. I don't see any possibility of him being anything worse than 4:20 potential, assuming he started at appropriate age, didn't have useless weight, was properly coached, and isn't injury prone.
I think he can break 4:20 easy, even starting at his current age, given the assumptions.
khorrps wrote:
some people from other sports have the potential, but not this guy, regardless of work
He does, he can get to 4:20 easy just by losing weight alone. 4:00 may require a few years of dedicate training though.
because solinsky is a natural at that weight. this guy would just be way weaker
Because there is a certain discipline and mindset to losing that much weight and remember, running fast is about power to weight ratios. Maybe he starves himself to lose all his muscle, but then he would never come close to a sub-5:00 mile let alone sub-4:00 mile. I would Subscribe to his channel to watch him get to 145lbs, just know this psychographic, I'm not sure it's even possible. Lots of mental games and discipline involved. Heck for me to hit my 126lbs racing weight from a walk around weight of 130lbs is legit, and we're not talking water weight. I would probably wage more money he can't lose the weight than him running sub-4, but then again i have not seen his channel and maybe he's the typical, "I was a loser skinny dork that couldn't play sports or get girls, so I started lifting weights and taking supplements" story. I actually like that he wore the Saucony Endorphin Pro orSpeeds and was influenced by Seth DeMoor!
yes like you hit 4:19 easy each year and then build from there
khorrps wrote:
seems you're the one with seriousness, nutsack
lol
Yes, I get that a lot.
Yes he could lose the weight if he wanted to, by just less calories. Muscle takes calories to maintain. Losses are quick at first, then taper off.
But like me, no way he wants to lose weight to run faster. He is happy where he is, with what he can do. Same with Matt London and all bigger types. They worked hard to get to where they are, it is no accident.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
Yes he could lose the weight if he wanted to, by just less calories. Muscle takes calories to maintain. Losses are quick at first, then taper off.
But like me, no way he wants to lose weight to run faster. He is happy where he is, with what he can do. Same with Matt London and all bigger types. They worked hard to get to where they are, it is no accident.
yeah. people with bodies like that typically stuff their face all day to gain as much muscle as possible. would probably lose 20 lbs very quickly if desired. It would get tougher from there.
I'm guessing his 550 lb squat is more important to him than running. He has chosen his path in life. And it's worked out quite well.