Interesting Email on Shoes in Tonight's American 5k Record Attempt - Shelby Houlihan and Karissa Schweizzer

The Nike hate is real just for them being the best. Haters gonna hate!

The list goes on and on, look at the Winter Olympics:

wood skis went to straight skis went to shaped skis.

Bobsleds became aero.

Skin suits became a thing.

Hockey sticks became fiberglass.

We can go on for days

asking wrote:

This is Jim Kiler wrote:

Gwen has been wearing her Cheaterfly spikes, far as I can tell.

Out of curiosity, what aspect of the shoe is the cheating part? If it’s against the rules I’d like to know which one.

The pogo part. Boing, boing.

Sapel wrote:

Shoes don't make the runner. The new spikes are fine and legit.

^ Sounds like someone who doesn't believe in COVID

Swim Bike Run wrote:

So should cyclist go back to steel framed bikes m

instead of carbon composites?

Should golfers go back to steel and wood shafts and clubs instead of graphite and titanium?

Should pole vaulters go back to bamboo or aluminum poles?

Should sprinters go back to digging holes instead of using blocks?

Should javelins go back to wood?

Terrible examples since all those sports have strict equipment regulations that evolve frequently.

Gonna cry about it?

So do shoes buddy. Nike took technology from football cleats and moved it to running.

USATF has regulations about shoes, nike just pushed the envelope. It's what innovation is all about.

asking wrote:

Out of curiosity, what aspect of the shoe is the cheating part? If it’s against the rules I’d like to know which one.

As long as the shoes are available for the general public to purchase, they are legal.

Sapel wrote:

Shoes don't make the runner. The new spikes are fine and legit.

+++ I agree.

dunes runner wrote:

wejo wrote:

That’s what I used to think. Until the new marathon shoes came out. Clearly shoes can have a significant difference that impacts races.

Clearly the tooth fairy has created an invisible virus that doesn't exist but kills people anyway, unless they get vaccinated with a coal tar derivative laced with mercury and aluminum, at least according to Antonio Fauci and Bill Gates.

Personally, I don't believe in anything that doesn't make any sense.

Another example of hijacking a thread for political purposes

I am Sam wrote:

Another example of hijacking a thread for political purposes

There was nothing political about that response,

but this thread is politically maligning runners who wear certain brands of shoes.

I am Sam wrote:

Another example of hijacking a thread for political purposes

I disagree with that. I was making an analogy with the topic, which is therefore on topic.

However, I just now read the new guidelines on another thread about staying on topic, and although I feel my response was on topic, will endeavor in future postings to make sure of adhering to that ever more closely and precisely.

wejo wrote:

Sapel wrote:

Shoes don't make the runner. The new spikes are fine and legit.

That’s what I used to think. Until the new marathon shoes came out. Clearly shoes can have a significant difference that impacts races.

There needs to be a level playing field between runners otherwise it is Shoe Doping.

Sapel wrote:

boomheadshot, maybe you have not been paying attention, but a line has been drawn and these spikes have been submitted and validated as Legal. Keep up with the times. It's the runner, not the shoes. Case in point, they've had these spikes for over 18 months, globally, and you're not seeing a destruction of WR/AR/CR.

A couple of CR were destroyed tonight.

Definitely not anything to do with the shoes, of course not.

This is Jim Kiler wrote:

asking wrote:

Out of curiosity, what aspect of the shoe is the cheating part? If it’s against the rules I’d like to know which one.

Thanks for keeping an eye on the board, Nike Shill.

The modified shoe Gwen wears, modified or not, is called (by me, anyway), the "Cheaterfly" because in an earlier form it was used by Nike athletes at the 2016 Olympic Trials marathon and in the 2016 Olympic Marathon when nobody even knew it existed. I won't get into this further, but you should know at least that much, or did your intern packet not get into that?

That was then, this is now. The shoes are legal. You need to get over yourself.

dunes runner wrote:

asking wrote:

Out of curiosity, what aspect of the shoe is the cheating part? If it’s against the rules I’d like to know which one.

As long as the shoes are available for the general public to purchase, they are legal.

exactly. People who scream about how the shoes are cheaterflys should all be running barefoot as far as I'm concerned.

Otherwise, they are hypocrites and whiners.

Nike haters punching the air right now?

Well, Scott Okagawa needs to eat some humble pie causing all this ruckus on a prediction gone wrong.

Can we can an apology, Scott?

Thanks.