This lad almost has a cult around him after posting a weight training routine which is now one of the most popular on the internet (nsuns 5/3/1). Normally I wouldn’t care, but this one is has me perplexed.
This lad almost has a cult around him after posting a weight training routine which is now one of the most popular on the internet (nsuns 5/3/1). Normally I wouldn’t care, but this one is has me perplexed.
Maybe he has exaggerated but if it helps motivate others who really cares.
16:34 isn't exactly anything special. Nor is 39 minute 10k. If he claims times that would get him into the Olympics then maybe this is note worthy.
This story is basically "slow fat runner becomes ok runner with persistent training".
No a snowball's chance wrote:
This is one of the most ludicrous posts I've ever seen. Mods in r/fitness deleting left and right because even the average layperson knows how impossible this is. Can't imagine putting so much effort into LARPing to get some fantasy good boy points on Reddit.
I agree that there is no chance at all. He claims to have cut 65 lbs (260 -> 195), built a 600lb deadlift, and gone from barely being able to run an 11 minute mile to a 16:34 5k in one year.
I got permanently banned from r/fitness for calling him out after he freaked out and called me a "pathetic weakling" and told me to go f*** myself haha
Let's be real here- for the average person 16:34 is incredibly special. The percentage of people who can run that time right now in the US is probably less than 3%. To go around masquerading that it took you less than 6 months to achieve that is disingenuous at best. It might not hurt you directly, but shouldn't dishonesty be at least called out?
I'm not sure which LIE is more staggering: The claim of a 1:26 half a few months after running a 25 min 5k, or the claim of the 16:XX 5k....
They are both laughably insane and anyone with a shred of knowledge can see right through this poser. These idiotic claims don't hold up to water and he even piles on the ridiculous high amount of weight on the lifts too?!
Complete joke.
Reddit Sucks wrote:
I got permanently banned from r/fitness for calling him out after he freaked out and called me a "pathetic weakling" and told me to go f*** myself haha
These two comments got me permanently banned from the community. Top one is addressed to the sub moderator, bottom one is addressed to nsuns. No responses to these, just banned.
https://imgur.com/UYjgL8Obasics wrote:
Reddit Sucks wrote:
I got permanently banned from r/fitness for calling him out after he freaked out and called me a "pathetic weakling" and told me to go f*** myself haha
These two comments got me permanently banned from the community. Top one is addressed to the sub moderator, bottom one is addressed to nsuns. No responses to these, just banned.
https://imgur.com/UYjgL8O
trying again here
https://imgur.com/a/aSQncCZNo a snowball's chance wrote:
Let's be real here- for the average person 16:34 is incredibly special. The percentage of people who can run that time right now in the US is probably less than 3%. To go around masquerading that it took you less than 6 months to achieve that is disingenuous at best. It might not hurt you directly, but shouldn't dishonesty be at least called out?
3%???, it’s better than 3% if you just take runners into account, but the general population would be way less than 1% that could run that right now
Deleted comments say his PRs were treadmill runs...
So are the run times fake?
Or his he juicing?
Trawling through removeddit nothing about this adds up. From December onward he’s knocked 2 minutes off his mile time. This isn’t a year of training, it’s 4 months.
shootpost wrote:
So are the run times fake?
Or his he juicing?
He is a bodybuilder, and not in any testing pool. Bodybuilders got access to anything, there is a huge black market. IF he actually ran that time, it is very likely on many different "supplements" (testosterone, EPO, HGH, etc).
Don't forget, if pro runners can run 7:20 and 3:26 off juice, it's not surprising for someone to run a 16 min 5k with it. The last 10s from 7:30 to 7:20 are worth way more and way harder than going from 25 to 16 min in the 5k, if both are using PEDs.
He admitted in a thread in r/advancedrunning that the 4:55 mile and 16:34 5k were done on a treadmill
Is that much easier?
toozy wrote:
Is that much easier?
yes and no. If the treadmill isn't calibrated which is common, it can be much much easier
No a snowball's chance wrote:
Let's be real here- for the average person 16:34 is incredibly special. The percentage of people who can run that time right now in the US is probably less than 3%. To go around masquerading that it took you less than 6 months to achieve that is disingenuous at best. It might not hurt you directly, but shouldn't dishonesty be at least called out?
The percentage of people who can run that time is probably 3% or less I agree. The percentage of the running population that can run that time is far more.
It's not a time that makes me think wow and it could easily be achieved in a year for some people who are nowhere near elite athletes. You get decent kids doing that all the time.
Add in the fact that his 5k is measured on his watch, maybe a bit of downhill sections involved, maybe it's closer to 16:45-50 in a proper course which is measured well.
ex-runner wrote:
No a snowball's chance wrote:
Let's be real here- for the average person 16:34 is incredibly special. The percentage of people who can run that time right now in the US is probably less than 3%. To go around masquerading that it took you less than 6 months to achieve that is disingenuous at best. It might not hurt you directly, but shouldn't dishonesty be at least called out?
The percentage of people who can run that time is probably 3% or less I agree. The percentage of the running population that can run that time is far more.
It's not a time that makes me think wow and it could easily be achieved in a year for some people who are nowhere near elite athletes. You get decent kids doing that all the time.
Add in the fact that his 5k is measured on his watch, maybe a bit of downhill sections involved, maybe it's closer to 16:45-50 in a proper course which is measured well.
he claims it was on a treadmill
shootpost wrote:
toozy wrote:
Is that much easier?
yes and no. If the treadmill isn't calibrated which is common, it can be much much easier
Even easier is holding onto the handrails of the treadmill while the belt rotates.
Reddit is a complete joke if they banned you for asking an extremely reasonable question. You didn't even say anything insulting or offensive. All you did was search for the truth.
I applaud you Trail Zealot!! Compulsive, maniacal lying like this needs to be called out. It's insulting to anyone who's run a legitimate sub 17- 5k after training long and hard to do so. Sub-17 is not easy!!
Haha thanks, I'm a reformed redditor myself. I actually hadn't posted there for years before creating that burner account to ask this question.
I understand how that place tends to operate. Seems like this mod is tired of all these "wet blankets" trying to rain on others' parade, and that's the criteria they've chosen for banning. Most mods are over-worked and cannot respond thoughtfully to the amount of traffic they must manage. They tend to define the "tone" of the subreddit and then police things around that.