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sparky polastry
RE: In case you missed this

KudzuRunner wrote:

This may already have been addressed, but does anybody have a theory about when in the course of his career he began to cheat? In this long list of races, it seems clear that Boston in 2008 is legit, and I'm guessing that the three Pike's Peak are legit. But knowing what we know now, it's hard not to wonder whether it goes back to that very first Santa Clarita in the fall of 2007, which is almost a full hour faster than Boston, five months later. Any thoughts on this?

Frank’s Marathon History
3/24/2019 2:53:10 Los Angeles Disqualified
2/9/2019 2:53:54 Phoenix
10/7/2018 2:53:27 Long Beach
3/8/2018 2:56:12 Los Angeles
11/5/2017 3:02:49 Santa Clarita
10/8/2017 2:57:09 Long Beach
3/19/2017 2:58:07 Los Angeles
12/4/2016 CIM Disqualified
10/9/2016 2:55:07 Long Beach
3/20/2016 2:59:23 Oakland
11/8/2015 3:04:48 Santa Clarita
10/11/2015 2:57:04 Long Beach
3/15/2015 2:52:47 Los Angeles
12/7/2014 2:53:33 CIM Disqualified
11/2/2014 3:06:46 Santa Clarita
10/12/2014 3:00:54 Long Beach
7/27/2014 2:59:40 San Francisco
6/1/2014 3:02:39 Rock n Roll San Diego
3/9/2014 2:59:10 Los Angeles
2/2/2014 3:04:45 Surf City
1/19/2014 3:06:41 Carlsbad
11/3/2013 3:06:03 Santa Clarita
8/18/2013 6:11:37 Pike’s Peak
3/17/2013 3:00:16 Los Angeles
2/3/2013 3:05:30 Surf City
11/4/2012 3:09:53 Santa Clarita
3/8/2012 3:04:03 Los Angeles
2/5/2012 3:09:27 Surf City
11/6/2011 3:11:25 Santa Clarita
10/9/2011 3:09:34 Long Beach
7/31/2011 3:09:09 San Francisco
5/15/2011 3:10:48 Pasadena
3/20/2011 3:19:21 Los Angeles
2/6/2011 3:11:53 Surf City
11/17/2010 3:15:16 Santa Clarita
8/22/2010 6:08:12 Pike’s Peak
3/21/2010 3:18:13 Los Angeles
2/21/2010 3:19:53 Pasadena
11/8/2009 3:21:44 Santa Clarita
8/16/2009 5:51:28 Pike’s Peak
5/25/2009 3:28:08 Los Angeles
3/22/2009 3:19:59 Pasadena
4/21/2008 4:25:58 Boston
11/4/2007 3:27:23 Santa Clarita

I think all of his Pikes Peak Marathon times are legit. All of his splits are accounted for in 2013, and his times are realistic for a pretty good runner in his age group but at a level way below his fraudulent marathon times. He has a 4:44 from Pikes Peak in 1988 at age 39, also a pretty good time. 3:27 at Santa Clarita at age 58 seems achievable for someone with that ability level at age 39 who continued to train regularly. Pasadena is in the foothills of the San Gabriels provides some good training opportunities for Pikes Peak, so it's not that unrealistic that he could perform well there.

I think he got back into racing with the goals of going to Boston and going back to Pikes Peak with his son. He had a bad race at Boston but continued to train and improve leading up to Pikes Peak 2009, where he legitimately won his age group. That was probably quite a thrill, and probably also the turning point that led him to start cheating at his home races to recreate the image of Frank the champion for his friends/co-workers/hs runners. After that, the frequency of his racing and continuous improvements are unrealistic, except for his Pikes Peak races, where his times follow the predictable year over year decline of someone at his age.

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