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KudzuRunner wrote:

This may already have been addressed, but does anybody have a theory about when in the course of his career he began to cheat? In this long list of races, it seems clear that Boston in 2008 is legit, and I'm guessing that the three Pike's Peak are legit. But knowing what we know now, it's hard not to wonder whether it goes back to that very first Santa Clarita in the fall of 2007, which is almost a full hour faster than Boston, five months later. Any thoughts on this?

Frank’s Marathon History
3/24/2019 2:53:10 Los Angeles Disqualified
2/9/2019 2:53:54 Phoenix
10/7/2018 2:53:27 Long Beach
3/8/2018 2:56:12 Los Angeles
11/5/2017 3:02:49 Santa Clarita
10/8/2017 2:57:09 Long Beach
3/19/2017 2:58:07 Los Angeles
12/4/2016 CIM Disqualified
10/9/2016 2:55:07 Long Beach
3/20/2016 2:59:23 Oakland
11/8/2015 3:04:48 Santa Clarita
10/11/2015 2:57:04 Long Beach
3/15/2015 2:52:47 Los Angeles
12/7/2014 2:53:33 CIM Disqualified
11/2/2014 3:06:46 Santa Clarita
10/12/2014 3:00:54 Long Beach
7/27/2014 2:59:40 San Francisco
6/1/2014 3:02:39 Rock n Roll San Diego
3/9/2014 2:59:10 Los Angeles
2/2/2014 3:04:45 Surf City
1/19/2014 3:06:41 Carlsbad
11/3/2013 3:06:03 Santa Clarita
8/18/2013 6:11:37 Pike’s Peak
3/17/2013 3:00:16 Los Angeles
2/3/2013 3:05:30 Surf City
11/4/2012 3:09:53 Santa Clarita
3/8/2012 3:04:03 Los Angeles
2/5/2012 3:09:27 Surf City
11/6/2011 3:11:25 Santa Clarita
10/9/2011 3:09:34 Long Beach
7/31/2011 3:09:09 San Francisco
5/15/2011 3:10:48 Pasadena
3/20/2011 3:19:21 Los Angeles
2/6/2011 3:11:53 Surf City
11/17/2010 3:15:16 Santa Clarita
8/22/2010 6:08:12 Pike’s Peak
3/21/2010 3:18:13 Los Angeles
2/21/2010 3:19:53 Pasadena
11/8/2009 3:21:44 Santa Clarita
8/16/2009 5:51:28 Pike’s Peak
5/25/2009 3:28:08 Los Angeles
3/22/2009 3:19:59 Pasadena
4/21/2008 4:25:58 Boston
11/4/2007 3:27:23 Santa Clarita

I’m of the mind, and I’ve posted a few times, that I think he cheated his way into Boston to make it a father-son trip. Probably got a lot of accolades. Then ran a real time at Boston, an hour slower, and made up some excuse(s) for it. To make the qualifying time look real and the Boston time a “disappointment” he “validated” the better time with repeat performances and improved from there. I don’t know about Pikes Peak but I think everything else is the result of cheating.

Look at those times... has any marathoner ever ran so many races with such consistent, slight improvement and a complete absence of a blow-up race? Even on a day with 88 degree heat he makes his little improvement.

One way that golf cheats out themselves (for handicapping purposes) is that they put in scores with impossible consistency. An extremely narrow range of scores (or marathon times) is a red flag.

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