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RE: Jack Daniels 2Q is insane

my legs are tired :( wrote:

brain dead genius wrote:

My legs are tired :( wrote:

I'm 6 weeks out from the marathon.....?

You are overestimating your M and T paces and aren't as fit as you think.

My 10k pace is 6:05, my half marathon pace is 6:40. I do T at 6:25.

I know I have a lack of endurance, that is why i'm doing 6 months of marathon training. I'm running more miles, many aerobically, than I ever have in my life.

It is very unlikely that you will be able to only add ~10sec/mi from Half to Full Marathon (you said 6:40, 6:51), especially given the pace difference between your 10k and Half. 70mi/wk for a few weeks is not enough to build that kind of endurance. A realistic number is to double your Half and add 10min. A runner with years of good volume and consistent long tempo work might only add 5min, but that is a rare animal.

A lot of people make the mistake of training for a time in the marathon. You need to train your current fitness level and improve it. Daniels actually emphasized this in his book. While you may be a VDOT X at one distance, you can be a VDOT Y at another distance. You need to use the Half as your VDOT pace table lookup for your Marathon training and probably slow that down some based on your admitted lack of endurance.

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