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boston hobbyjogger
RE: Jack Daniels 2Q is insane

Easy Peasy wrote:

I'm on my third go with Daniels 2Q, 55-70. I can give you a few tips here:

- Don't use his M pace. It's unrealistic and will crush you. If you're using his VDOT, use it for your T and I pace, but your M pace is probably something like what he says +10 seconds

This. I'm currently using 2Q (55-70) to train for the NYC Marathon (goal - 7:30 pace), and the only workouts I've bombed are M-pace workouts. However that makes since I know endurance is my weakness.

- Expect to feel like complete crap the days after a Q session. I sometimes need to run those at M+120 or M+150. I then feel slightly better, but still bad for the next E day, but often feel refreshed by day 3. Don't worry about your easy running pace. Just take it as slow as you need to recover and get ready for the next Q session.

It took me some time for a friend to convince me to SLOW DOWN on easy runs, and so the bulk of my E runs turn out to be 8:45-9:30 pace (9:30+ usually the day after a Q workout).

- Are you training in a hot location? I get crushed by his workouts in hot/humid weather, but once the weather turns, you will feel like a machine.

This is encouraging too. I'm training in Boston and we've had some really hot/muggy days that fell on Q workout days that I felt terrible.

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