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RE: 2014 Lucerne Results: Andy Bayer 12 second pb to 8:25!! Donn Cabral 8:22, Forys 8:24, Torrence 1:46, Grunewald 15:33.

Mrr82 wrote:

The big news is that a 3:34/7:43 guy ran 8:25 in the steeple? That's not news no matter what his pr was before. A 7:43 guy with an 8:37 pr is obviously a massive pr mismatch to start with. Let's get some perspective.

It's bigger news that Forys pr'd by 2 seconds, 8:24 is a fantastic time.

reed wrote:

it is big news if an athlete can match a steeple PR to his other PRs after only doing the event a handful of times.

8:25 is one of the top american steeple times this year, and hopefully the 12 second PR means he's got a long way to go.

Mrr82 is right. This is a 3:53 miler running 8:25. He's got drop down to 8:10 before he's running on par. (I kinda think he's going to do it). Don't kid yourself, he is no novice steeplechaser. He's been training for the event with two of the best American steeplers in history for over three months. That's about 11 weeks more steeplechase experience than I had in four full years of college.

The real story is Forys, who for awhile there looked to be another hs stud/college bust headed for nowhere. Then his senior he rallied bigtime with an 8:28. Now he is quietly improving.

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