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RE: Solomon suddenly world class and Rupp soloing 3.50 indoor miles - Come on Letsun, ask the questions!
This is a fair point. We have seen a few big improvements and doping busts since this thread. I think Mo Farah's 1500 made it harder to question big PRs. I realize that I tend not to doubt guys like Mo or Haile G because I have seen them so often. Yet, if i saw such improvement late in a career from someone else who I dont know, I might have been more skeptical.

There is a gut feel to a lot of this, especially when watching sprinting. It's ok to ask questions.




wejo wrote:

Like P White I'm bowing out on this thread.

Very few people in this thread have said they think Solomon or Rupp are doping.

There is a huge difference between saying "we should ask questions" and "they are doping."

Yes a few people have said on here they think one of the athletes may be doping. Big deal. That is their right.

There are many more others who think these athletes are clean.

And you know what? We have now way of proving it either way. Yet "A Duck" and others somehow divinely want us to know the "truth."

I say it is far healthier for a clean sport to let people air their questions and sometimes their accusations. When someone on here says "I know so and so is doping." that usually is just sports fan hyperbole meaning "I think so and so is doping."

We got crucified by people for letting threads go on Lance Armstrong. And you know what? The people who said he was doping were right.

At the same time, I let threads go with people saying I was doping. I know I'm clean, but I don't have a problem with people saying they think my progression wasn't natural.

When Cathal Lombard drilled me in a 10k in the UK, people got on here and said he must be on something. I remember laughing and thinking that was crazy. Yet I didn't shut down the thread because I disagreed with it. And you know what he was proven to be a cheat.

The point is I don't know if an athlete is clean or dirty and neither do you. It is ok to have the discussion. Do some people get a little overheated. Of course. That is how sports fans work.

This thread shows what we know about sports. Fans don't like their own teams or players being criticized. Ray Lewis is a thug, for many outside of Baltimore, but to those in Baltimore he's "passionate". Dallas Cowboys are "America's Team" to some and a joke to others.

It's ok to ponder about athlete "X" and drugs but if you ponder about athlete "Y" it is inappropriate.

Take out the names. "RE: AAAAAA suddenly world class and BBBBB soloing 3.50 indoor miles - Come on Letsun, ask the questions!"

That to me is a perfectly legitimate thread. I have not hidden behind this view point. Some of you disagree. That is fine, but just be consistent with your logic.

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