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Another interesting point Rod explained to me was that John was a type of a guy (or a coach) who did it all himself first. And particularly because they were brothers, he would climb a tree and tell Rod, "Now I could do it so you could too." He was a coach by doing. One of my favorite stories is Percy Cerutty going on a track the day before Elliot's race and run a mile as hard as he could. Being an old man, he couldn't run that fast but coming back, huffing and puffing, told Elliot, "You may run a mile faster tomorrow but sure as hell you can NOT run as hard as I just did!" Is this story in his biography, "Why Die?"?

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