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  • Antonio Cabral wrote:Excuse me to insist on comment what you say. If TO COME CLOSE TO THE individual or collective NEEDS (as you name it) means to DO SO MANY ADAPTATIONS, so many changes that the fina... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - Antonio Cabral 11/30/2011 12:26PM
    Wetcoast wrote:Antonio, I have every email message that you and I exchanged. I can post it up here anytime. You said in at least two different ways of not knowing as much about Lydiard as us (meaning... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - Antonio Cabral 12/2/2011 5:20AM
    rekrunner wrote:gypsy (and others),Maybe in one way Antonio is a lot like Lydiard -- he gives you the pieces of the puzzle one at a time, and it takes many years to complete the puzzle....To the exten... (more)
  • Northern Star wrote:In other news, I had the pleasure yesterday of talking about my booklet, Lydiard training, and several other topics over coffee with Nobby Hashizume, co-founder of the Arthur Lydia... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Aerobic Phase - not a fanatic 5/24/2008 10:41AM
    Mr. Ray wrote:"not a fanatic",In your opinion, what are the main flaws in the imperfect Lydiard approach to training?The main flaw of Lydiard training is the lack of perspective. Here you have a first... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Training Advice; the Morning Run - António Cabral 6/2/2013 11:21PM
    First thing i want to say - and put that on your brain and memory if you want that i answer to you, is that I respect John Hadd but i´m not able to answer by his training whatsoever. and i got no att... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Training Advice; the Morning Run - António Cabral 6/5/2013 6:26AM
    [rekrunner wrote:Wow Antonio. I thought after all this time you couldn't surprise me, and now within a week, you've done it twice.That was actually civil, and constructive, and informative. Chapeau. P... (more)
  • RE: Why isn't Igloi training used more often today? - António Cabral 8/11/2014 8:21PM
    Athletics Illustrated wrote:So to not completely derail this thread from its original purpose about Igloi, which I do find interesting....I will make this final post in this particular thread about wh... (more)
  • rekrunner wrote:Antonio. You participated in a "private" thread describing "2 kinds of runners" with Hadd. What can be a more clear conclusion from that thread, than the requirement to adapt the tra... (more)
  • RE: Wow, Lydiard training seems ridiculously hard - Kadaffi out of power 3/11/2011 5:04AM
    Barbara Ann wrote:I know that my buddy Kim Stevenson has a lot on over the next week or so and has bailed on this for a while. However, I know he feels that once again .. interpretation is at the bott... (more)
  • RE: Arthur Lydiard - Lockhart51 9/11/2004 10:57PM
    Bio: This Man LydiardArthur Lydiard was born in Eden Park, New Zealand, in 1917. In school, he ran and boxed, but was most interested in rugby football. Because of the great Depression of the 1930', L... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - Antonio Cabral 11/30/2011 8:54AM
    Mr. Christopher Kelsall (or shall i name you Wetcoast ?)I hope your name is correct this time. As you might understand I I wrote your name but it´s my involuntary type match mistake, not an attempt... (more)
  • RE: Why isn't Igloi training used more often today? - António Cabral 8/11/2014 9:12AM
    Athletics Illustrated wrote:Antonio, You let me interview you and you exposed your training methodologies to resemble the genius of the great, great Arthur Lydiard. You hardly protested my indicating... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard anaerobic phase - IQ100 12/31/2007 11:36AM
    CraigMac4h wrote:HRE, El G's coach has been quoted as saying "for 9 months out of the year, Hicham trains like a 10,000 meters runner" and that during the blocks of training where aerobic conditioning... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Aerobic Phase - not a fanatic 5/24/2008 3:25PM
    I have a theory too wrote:[quote]CraigMac4h wrote:"If it happens I do 100miles a week or whatever others Lydiard training principles this doesn't mean necessary that I train by The Lydiard way."That's... (more)
  • I was at the Albany First Night Run where my two sons Joe and Dave ran. After the race, two Bethlehem High cross country and track graduates, Pat Shaffer and Evan Savage, came up to me and started con... (more)
  • from http://www.tullyrunners.com/Articles/RaucciArticle.htmJosh McDougal is a Perfect Example of What is Wrong With High School Trackby John RaucciI was at the Albany First Night Run where my two sons... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - gypsy 12/2/2011 2:05AM
    hi Rek, this turned into a freaking essay. I just started typing and it didn't stop for a while. Hope it's worth reading.I'm not sure how accurately you represent the modern approach, however, it seem... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - Antonio Cabral 12/7/2011 5:17AM
    eurodonkey wrote:Yawn. Let's get back to discussing training rather than personal stuff.Agree eurodonkey wrote:I would like to throw in a few semi-random observations I made on catching up with the la... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - Antonio Cabral 12/11/2011 12:56PM
    HRE wrote:[quote]Renato Canova wrote:At the end of every thing, people having still the idea of "Lydiardism" can make a very bad service to Lydiard himself, because of sure, if Arthur was still alive... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Training Advice; the Morning Run - António Cabral 5/31/2013 5:12AM
    Knowing that Lydiard despises the interest of Heart rate Monitors as training control and pace control but “pace feeling instead” but teaches the HRM as Lydiard pace control is everything except L... (more)
  • rekrunner wrote:I think it's a good point that when criticizing Lydiard, first defining "which" Lydiard you are criticizing, since Lydiard can mean so many things (right or wrong) to so many people, n... (more)
  • Canova - Antonio Cabral 8/19/2012 6:48PM
    HRE wrote:No, I do not want to claim every person I can is using Lydiard training and all I've seen about Bordin is a comment he made on a video. I don't know much about what he did though I have see... (more)
  • Wetcoast wrote:So Antonio, are you suggesting that Lydiard's method that required long runs and an aerobic development phase (marathon phase, as he called it) was not necessary for Snell or any 800m r... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - Antonio Cabral 12/16/2011 8:04AM
    Canada Coach wrote:what Lydiard did, and give him respect for developing some great ideas that many of us still use today. Many of us it´s generalize conclusion, but I don´t.I don´t follow Lydiard.... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - Antonio Cabral 1/18/2012 10:03AM
    rekrunner wrote:Antonio,I really don't mind that you have a different opinion. If you think Lydiard was great in his day, but we've advanced since then, I understand that point of view and accept tha... (more)
  • Antonio,Yes I brought up Murray Halberg. It was in a completely different, almost completely unrelated, context, in a kind of historical timeline to show that any "unlimited aerobic" comments come de... (more)
  • RE: Why isn't Igloi training used more often today? - António Cabral 8/11/2014 4:45PM
    Athletics Illustrated wrote:Wrongo, bucko. I have the original interview in its raw form. I took the editorial right to suggest in the intro that you do, whether you like it or not, subscribe to train... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Aerobic Phase - I have a theory too 5/24/2008 6:31PM
    not a fanatic wrote:[quote]I have a theory too wrote:True, dat. Philosophies and methodologies tend to trickle down. Whether you're adopting a methodology from 'the' source or it's fifteenth cousin,... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Aerobic Phase - not a fanatic 5/30/2008 5:19AM
    My comments about Lydiard that shall end right now. It is my last post about Lydiard. My conclusion is that most of the Lydiard adepts they are fanatics and arrogant and they can’t stand a comment a... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - rekrunner 12/1/2011 7:41PM
    gypsy (and others),Maybe in one way Antonio is a lot like Lydiard -- he gives you the pieces of the puzzle one at a time, and it takes many years to complete the puzzle....To the extent I can answer t... (more)
  • RE: Peter Winter on Renato Canova - not a fanatic 5/30/2008 5:18AM
    My comments about Lydiard that shall end right now. It is my last post about Lydiard. My conclusion is that most of the Lydiard adepts they are fanatics and arrogant and they can’t stand a comment a... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - Antonio Cabral 11/2/2011 10:23AM
    Miss Lorraine and Mr. Nobby - two Lydiard representatives and experts - worked on identifying Lydiard training principles. According Mr. Nobby they tried to see if they can “apply each and every on... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - Antonio Cabral 12/8/2011 6:32PM
    rekrunner wrote:Antonio,I have another question for you. If you will allow me, because I know that Hadd is not Lydiard, it's a question regarding Hadd's famous Phase 1, and his 2:27 athlete "Joe" who... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Aerobic Phase - not a fanatic 5/26/2008 8:29AM
    Mr. Ray wrote:"not a fanatic",I proposed to put aside dogma and dogmatists, and help me identify, if you can, what is wrong with Lydiard training, and where I can find out more, to help me broaden my... (more)
  • rekrunner wrote:1) Antonio does say (or did say) that unofficial exceptions that may have been approved by Lydiard himself, or by a Lydiard appointed successor, in private communications don't count.... (more)
  • RE: I have lost faith in Lydiard training - António Cabral 11/28/2013 3:21PM
    You got the answer. You don´t see no contradiction.But i try once again, might that that it happens some light in your mind and some of you. When it´s said that "you have to consider everything" tha... (more)
  • Pete wrote:[quote]Antonio Cabral wrote:If we want a serious, clean, transparent debate about what is Lydiard we need both to agree what´s define Lydiard training and what doesn´t. I try that my sour... (more)
  • I take 2 main conclusions:1/ Ther´s not a quite complete clear, objective, accurate definition of what is Lydiard training and what is not, what fits into the Lydiard method and what doesn´t. I d... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - Antonio Cabral 12/20/2011 4:59AM
    On the past, when the Lydiardist was questioned about main reason why the Lydiard training did produce so many huge success, from great success on a bunch of kids of the block on NZ - from the late... (more)
  • rekrunner wrote:Antonio,Your line of reasoning suffers from something I'll call "The Highlander Fallacy". It is your endless quest to find the "holy grail" training approach that can be called "The O... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard anaerobic phase - For HRE: 1/2/2008 10:55PM
    HRE:I've done your homework for you. Below are 2 posts. One from IQ100 on this thread. Another from Antonio Cabral on the giant locked thread. Please review these posts, come to your own conclusions,... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard anaerobic phase - IQ100 1/10/2008 10:30AM
    The Light wrote:With respect to Nobby vs. Molvar, I think Nobby outranks Molvar. From what little I do know, I consider Nobby to be an expert on the Lydiard system (as did Arthur himself), but I don'... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Aerobic Phase - not a fanatic 5/19/2008 5:43AM
    sim wrote:There are probably some fanatical Lydiardists. Everything has its fanatics. My involvement goes no further than the fact I appreciate what he pointed out, what he discovered. This isn't to s... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Aerobic Phase - not a fanatic 5/23/2008 7:35PM
    Mr. Ray wrote:I believe there are about 1,961,990,553,600 ways to lace a shoe with 12 eyelets, although with some constraints, that number can reasonably be reduced to around 43,200. Lydiard recommen... (more)
  • Oh, so many replies... Hope you don't mind if consolidate it into one.sound of silence wrote:I see….You miss to understand the basics of training. It’s why you think Lydiard it’s right and I’... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - Antonio Cabral 11/23/2011 6:09AM
    rekrunner wrote:Antonio,You are at your best when you talk about interval training, modern training methodology, and portuguese training history. You are at your worst when you are attacking others (... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - Antonio Cabral 12/2/2011 9:35AM
    ZaTTu wrote:[quote]Antonio Cabral wrote:If you are able to prove that Lydiard prescribes his training pace as you say, we can continue, but if you don´t and you have no prove that he did prescribe "l... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - Antonio Cabral 12/13/2011 2:56AM
    You ask me about my training.Let´s try without discuss Lydiard.Basically my training is nothing but Lydiard influenced.Lydiard prescribes aerobic first and 100miles as the optimal volume for that per... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - greengrass 12/13/2011 11:50AM
    Antonio Cabral wrote:You ask me about my training.Let´s try without discuss Lydiard.Basically my training is nothing but Lydiard influenced.Lydiard prescribes aerobic first and 100miles as the optima... (more)
  • I read it. I made some comments before which seemed to get little notice.So far, I think it's largely an unfinished work. It needs to go into more details about the differences of the two approaches... (more)
  • RE: Why isn't Igloi training used more often today? - António Cabral 8/8/2014 6:49AM
    8467 wrote:When in the next Olympics she finished 3rd ...First you say that HRE cannot demonstrate with facts that Lydiard training is particularly effective. Then you use Lorraine Moller, who used Ly... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard anaerobic phase - IQ100 12/28/2007 11:58AM
    Runningart2004 wrote:Lydiard's results speak for themselves. He took kids from his block and made them Olympians. Regardless of the science behind it, he trained them and coached them well.That´s a f... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Aerobic Phase - not a fanatic 5/23/2008 5:27AM
    HRESince I read my own last post i post it once again in the attempt to correct some my type mistakes. While read it I made some changes the way I can express my own opinion in an more understandable... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - Antonio Cabral 11/5/2011 10:24AM
    gypsy wrote:Come on Antonio, why are you avoiding?You like Forrest and i like Lydiard. You said and it´s all right. lydiard is a self-made man that bluid his own training ideas by himself, with "fait... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - gypsy 11/5/2011 5:40PM
    Antonio Cabral wrote:ps -don´t forget to answer first about the egg or the chicken and the thunder and or ray, what comes first. It will be a rich start to the debate if the aerobic condition comes f... (more)
  • RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? - IQ100 1/24/2008 3:32PM
    Your argment goes in circles. We have a Lydiard original training with some items and conditions to what point Lydiardism the training it´s considered Lydiard. Marathon volume training as the 100 mil... (more)
  • RE: Wow, Lydiard training seems ridiculously hard - Kadaffi out of power 3/14/2011 9:27AM
    rekrunner wrote:You have me at a slight disadvantage, as I do not have the the Snell and Vasala schedules. I also don't know if, at this point in their season, they were inside one of these classic p... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - Antonio Cabral 12/1/2011 5:23AM
    SmithStn wrote:The essence of Lydiard's ideas make an appearance in fragments of this discussion, but really, this discussion is bloated. If Canova, Cabral, et al think Lydiard did not propose "long... (more)
  • HREI really think that would be stupid to take advice from Ron Clark, or from you. Since Ron was a looser, with good performances but a looser, and since you based in your training i can´t take the c... (more)
  • Antonio Cabral wrote:Look Toro. I disagree with you.Why ?I post on this board since long ago, some 10 years probably. I never ever opened one thread about Lydiard. The more i did posts about many subj... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard anaerobic phase - IQ100 1/9/2008 5:41PM
    Once again. In the Lydiard Foundation site you may read that Lydiard is the “Father of Jogging”. If you think that´s figurative, or the real father of sons and daugheters descendence you may con... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard anaerobic phase - The Light 1/10/2008 11:44AM
    OK, then let's confine my comment to public knowledge and not private anecdotes and opinions.If there is any confusion between the two Lydiard experts, Nobby and Molvar, about an interpretation of wha... (more)
  • RE: Wow, Lydiard training seems ridiculously hard - Kadaffi out of power 3/21/2011 10:23AM
    NobbyH wrote:In my own ethic and behavior I follow one principle of transcendence that says everything is cyclic, nothing is the same forever and nothing is immutable up to the eternity. Consequently,... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - snowden 11/23/2011 4:53PM
    Antonio Cabral wrote:First the question about my posts it´s about that I did post anonymous. Mr. Nobby did write one post to show his disagreement about what I did. I taugh his demand to post just w... (more)
  • rekrunner wrote:Elephant in the room? Canova's training is suitable for everyone. There is no reason to think you are at increased risk of getting injured/burned out, so long as you respect certain pr... (more)
  • RE: I have lost faith in Lydiard training - António Cabral 11/29/2013 1:43PM
    SlowFatMaster wrote:Hi Antonio:I agree that there are contradictions. In Healthy Intelligent Training (endorsed by the Lydiard Foundation) there is a chapter that compares John Walker's training to E... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard anaerobic phase - The Light 1/8/2008 10:33AM
    Sorry to resurrect this thread, which may be better off dead, but I feel compelled to respond to "IQ100", and also "wellnow", "HRE", and "Wetcoast", among others.IQ100:I read all of your examples of L... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Aerobic Phase - not a fanatic 5/23/2008 8:57AM
    I repeat my last post once again while I add something more. Please read this one instead of the other. BuzzIn my opinion your post is brilliant. I agree with most of what you say. Except in one point... (more)
  • RE: Wow, Lydiard training seems ridiculously hard - khadaffi on power 3/8/2011 12:43PM
    Early on i post what on the Lydiard Foundation site it´s Lydiard training. Training blocks, aerobics, 100miles, hill the Lydiard way, the anaerobic block, AND among all that Lydiard stuff, it´s the... (more)
  • RE: Wow, Lydiard training seems ridiculously hard - Kadaffi out of power 3/15/2011 8:57AM
    HRE wrote:Rather than talk about "outdated vs. modern", it seems what's coming up here is "constantly specific vs. periodically specific" and the assumption made by some is that constantly specific tr... (more)
  • HRE wrote:As you know, Arthur developed a second approach to coaching that was a response to different demands and desires made by the running world now compared to the demands it made on athletes in... (more)
  • Excuse me to insist on comment what you say. If TO COME CLOSE TO THE individual or collective NEEDS (as you name it) means to DO SO MANY ADAPTATIONS, so many changes that the final result is out of th... (more)
  • You say “If you look at ALL successful distance runners that run in distances from the 800m to the marathon, you will see that the training programs end up looking very similar and always very much... (more)
  • RE: Lydiard Imitations - gypsy 11/28/2011 3:27AM
    rekrunner wrote:gypsy,You are really in a certain mode now aren't you. It's difficult to respond to every point in your lengthy point, but I will try to clear up some of the questions by presenting m... (more)