I don’t really have an opinion one way or the other about the future success of the Pings. But the accusation that posters who are being critical of the Pings’ training are trying to deny them the joy of winning is not a valid argument. The Pings have been good enough to win many, many races in middle school even if they trained at a less intense level. So the option was there for them to experience a lot of winning but still hold back and reduce the risk of early burnout.
This is not about denying the joy of winning to a talented child, it is about denying some degree of winning today in exchange for what may be the opportunity for more winning in the future. I think it is an interesting debate and one that is very useful for other parents of talented young runners, many of whom may not realize the risks of intense training at a young age. I don’t think anyone should be trying to silence people on either side of the debate by hurling personal insults about their own personal achievements. The debate is an important one, and should be rationally argued.
Grace Ping became famous for setting age group records, beating older runners, etc., not for winning the local MS track race. From that moment onwards, she was opened up to being a high profile case study on the intense training of young runners. Not a great position for a young person to be in, but inevitable. That in itself may be an argument against pushing too hard to early.
Why are you so intent to make that choice on behalf of other parents who have demonstrated to be a good providers to their own kids - trade a little now for more later? How is that any of your business?
There is no proof that what you are suggesting is a good trade. It may work for some but not for others. Look at the Taylor Werner thread for example.
I also fail to see the obsession with the future but maybe I am too French. There is value in living the present. Enjoy today. Plan a little for tomorrow but still enjoy today.
And, no, Grace Ping never opened up to be a high profile case study. She most likely simply enjoyed the moment. I think you self-invited yourself to provide a critical opinion. And you cast a bet that she will fail. In anything we do, any of us are far more likely to fail than succeed. Most runners will never attain what Grace did when she was 14. As a result, most will never be able to use past successes for moral support when they eventually run into personal difficulties later in life. That is what her parents are giving to Grace. It is the self-confidence that she can rise to the occasion just as she once did. Meanwhile, you can preach Patience Grasshopper and suffer. They are teaching her to fight. They are right and I admire them.
How about Nedrow, Vannerson, Puffer or Miller? Anything wrong with them? They have parents and you are not one of them. Take care of your own kids and let other parents take care of theirs. Hopefully one of them will rise to be a great runner in adulthood but if none of them ever do, they are still wonderful kids today. There should be no debate.
For numerous reasons you are just wrong. It’s sad you feel that way and can’t see clearly enough the detriment to life these choices have made. History is lined with the wreckage of parents who do similar thing during in both running and all sports. And it goes against what they want even, you think they know they are making this decision and act like that makes it ok. But they believe they are doing what is needed to make her a high level athlete in the future.
I hope for the best for them and that even in the worse case situation they remain strong and positive but it is a scary situation they are in and the lessons they will ultimately learn aren’t unnecessary and could have been taught a different way.