dancin man wrote:
[quote]people forget how many bad teams there are wrote:
This. Having been at duals/tris/quads where 3:45 wins. Heck, go look at Penn Relays which runs HOURS of 4x4s, most heats are won above 3:28, with plenty of teams running closer to 3:40+.
For Girls, I'd guess 4:35.
Penn relays is a fun sample since it shows just how wildly off-base most of the suggested times in this thread are.
Out of 532 teams which raced a high school boys 4x4 at Penn, exactly 12 teams went 3:20.99 or faster. Just over 2%. 142 teams ran 3:30.99 or faster--just under 27%.
3:20 is really, really good. Good enough for a podium finish in ~90% of the country's state meets. Good enough to comfortably make state finals anywhere other than California and Texas.
For reference, the exact 50th percentile team at this year's Penn relays ran 3:37--i.e., four guys going 54-55. Penn isn't a perfectly representative sample though--many teams that can't field a competitive 4x4 won't attend, small schools without the capacity to travel super far for more than a handful of invites a year won't attend, etc. I'd agree that the true average probably runs closer to 3:45.
You run a 54-55 quarter, you're on a varsity 4x4 at most high schools.
That explains it