I got one for you.
What's an appropriate training plan for an 8th grader running cross country?
Understanding that is a very general question here are some specifics about that kid:
First year running was last year as a 7th grader. No previous experience or training. Good athlete- played a lot of baseball and basketball, decided to try running last year. This year was pulled up to Varsity XC squad as an 8th grader, did the summer running program and seemed to have a successful season and avoided injury. Runs highly competitive races in a competitive section and State.
Here is a partial list of times:
First season running: Modified XC 2017:
These races ranged from 1.5-1.7 miles.
8:32.0 - 4th
Modified Track 2017- Ran in 6 total meets and won all 12 races (ran the 800M and 1500M in each)- here are some of the times:
800M- 2:15.78- 1st
1500- 4:46.36- 1st
800M- 2:21.91- 1st
1500M- 4:38.6- 1st
800M- 2:27.62- 1st
1500M- 4:38.27- 1st
4:38 time in 1500 (ran that 3 times) qualified him for USATF event in NC for 13-14 yr olds.
Varsity XC- 2018:
17:41.3- 10th- 3.1 Miles
16.06- 21st- 2.95 miles
16.10- 72nd- 2.95 miles
17:51.2- 18th- 3.1 Miles
State Qualies-17:20.8 - 8th- 3.1 Miles
States- 17:34.4- 65th- 3.1 Miles
Ended the season with 160 Speed Rating as an 8th grader.
Qualified for States in large school division- only 8th grader to qualify in one of the stronger XC States. Placed 65th. Won 8th grader runner of the year for that State.
Will run Varsity track this coming season.
1) Couldn't care less what place he came in.
2) Qualified for the state meet with a 17:20? In the large school division? Unless there was a monsoon that day or something, I challenge you about it being one of the stronger XC states. 17:20 in Ohio and a bag of sh!t will get you a bag of sh!t.
3) Too hard to tell how an 8th grader will do once they hit high school...tougher to determine for girls, but boys have their issues also. Depends on how mature they are physically already, how much they like running. I know two guys who were teammates in middle school and high school. Let's call them A and B.
8th grade - A ran 5:28 for 1600 ; B ran 5:20 (runner A never beat runner B in track in middle school)
9th grade - A ran 4:40 for 1600 and 9:45 for 3200; B ran 5:20 (again) for 1600 and 10:50 for 3200
12th grade - A ran 4:15 for 1600 and 9:10 for 3200; B ran 4:55 for 1600 and 10:29 for 3200
Wasn't for lack of effort or training for runner B either. He loved running, trained well, but just didn't have the talent. Runner A also loved running and trained well, but he had the talent. Just don't know where your runner will be...only time will tell.
Why even bother replying when you didn't even make an attempt to answer the main question. Oh I'm sure you'll have some acerbic, idiotic response.
You did omit any mention of the 4:38's in the 1500 in the first year of a kids running life. Well I guess the morons in the USATF need to listen to a genius like yourself to get a better gauge on things. And yes you know nothing about the course or the conditions of that day.
Your comparison to runner A and runner B is facile and meaningless.
I know of a kid who had horrendous times in his first three years of running- persisted and grew a bit and had a great training schedule to go with his great discipline. He ended up winning States in one of the toughest States (far better than Ohio BTW no matter your incessant carping) and got a full ride to one of the perennial top 10 D1 XC programs.
If he would've listened to a knucklehead like you he would've given up his sophomore year and never reached his potential.
Next time try saying something useful.