Joe Jackson wrote:
Hanzo wrote:Stop blaming genetics for hobby joggers. I'm tired of hearing all the time I got talent just because I improved from 21 min 5k to 17 min in one year at >30. It's just hard, solid work week after week and smart, consistent training.
That you started at a 21min 5k says something, at least to me. How much training did you do leading up to that?
I started at 24 years after doing no sport at all for 10 years (computer gamer) and couldn't run more than 2 mins without stopping. So I started on a level far below most hobby joggers. I was so happy when I did my first 5k in 35 min after a couple of weeks.
Getting to 21 min 5k didn't take much effort, almost no running as I was injured all the time (chronic shin splints) so I did a lot of biking. Half a year of biking was enough to run 21 min 5k, the further improvement to 17 min came 5 years later after I finally was able to run without shin splints (from 21 to 17 in around half a year).
Saying that it's a sign of talent is the same reason I dropped my coach (he coached an Olympian, but says the same stupid thing - that it's an indication of talent to respond so well to training and that not everyone does that.. instead of believing in his own training plan and me working hard).
Canova said that every young male (except for a few % with disabilities or chronic overweight) can run 15:50 / 32:30 / 1:15 / 2:33 with many years of the right distance training. He is the only one that really knows his stuff I think.
Why I agree with him?
1) Because I've trained with hobby joggers (and surpassed all of them) in all those local running clubs. None of them trains optimally, they are running for fun doing random things. Those are the same ones that call those who do better and improve quickly talented, instead of trying to optimize their training and learn more about running. Most of them barely improve, doing the same thing week after week.
2) The human body was built to run long distances (IF properly trained for). Tests with animals (husky's etc) showed that the difference between the best and worst husky's is only about 10% in distance events. The difference between the best human and worst human (all optimally trained) should be 13 - 16 min 5k, and not 13 min to 20 min, or 13 min to 23 min etc. Chances are the 23 min runner is nowhere near his genetic capabilities that he could reach with optimal training (unless he gets too old).