Bad Wigins wrote:PositiveSplit800 wrote:
Pre is miles better than any other US meet. The crowd is the most knowledgeable crowd anywhere, perhaps even including Europe.
They are pathetic regressive octegenarians who humiliate their country with their inability to handle metric marks. A festering time-warp of ignorance.
Not trolling. Athletics is metric by default. If you're knowledgeable, that's what you use, and nothing else.
Pre is a great meet, but in order to get my wife to come, I have to incorporate some time in Napa or Lake Tahoe. You have to keep in mind that a meet only last a couple of hours. There really isn't much to see in Eugene and when you live on the East Coast, that's pretty far to travel for just a meet. You can't fly into Eugene, you have to rent a car and drive from Portland. Eugene has very few upscale accommodations, which I don't need, but my wife does and probably some fans as well. When I go to Penn or Millrose, besides a great meet, I really enjoy hanging out in Philly or NY. I went to the IAAF Relays in April, you get to vacation in the Bahamas and then watch a great track meet. You see guys like Coe, Vin and Frazier hanging out with their families. Btw, the IAAF Relays is a great experience and might be the most underrated meet. Jamaica is also a cool place to hang out if you go to Champs. The same can be said for Zurich and Monaco or just about any of the DL meets, they are all in great locations. The biggest problems with Pre is a stadium only track purist love and the city of Eugene.
In terms of a knowledgeable crowd, my normal seating area at the Penn Relays for many years was surrounded by T&F hall of famers. Not so much anymore because of the large Jamaican contingent, which makes it difficult to get good seats. This is similar situation at Millrose. Not to mention LA, home of the '84 Olympics and perennial track powerhouses like USC and UCLA. I don't want to take anything away from Pre, but in my opinion those fans in general are actually less knowledge than Penn and Millrose. I think that has a lot to do with the fact that Pre and the DL meets in general have a lot of regular people (great fans), but most of the fans at Penn and Millrose have a direct connection to the sport either as an athlete, ex-athlete/coach or parent of an athlete, etc. I had a casual conversation with Vin once about the whole notion of Eugene (Track Town) being the epicenter of USA track & field. He agreed with everything negative I had to about that concept, albeit he still feels passionate about Eugene being the meca USA track & field.