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I have a black belt in Tang Soo Doo. Karate is a good way to build self discipline and get a descent workout, but most forms will not teach you how to really fight. I've seen 8 year olds get black belts. I've seen adults who couldn't deffend themselves from a retarded midget get black belts. There is actually alot of money to be made from karate so they make it easy enough to appeal to non-athletes and pass people along because they are paying money. I'd recomend jeet kun do (sp?) if you want to learn self defense. That seems to be a much more physical, fighting oriented form.
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