KaareV
Corona World Order wrote:
KaareV wrote:
The last three months in Sweden 222 deaths. And it is quite right. Gone in the right direction. The other Nordic countries, more or less half the population, And approx the same social structure. Norway 24 deaths in the same periode, 277 deaths all together- Sweden 5899. Denmark - 59 -669, Finland 18- 346. And Norway, it might be counterintuitive to some people, has not suffered more economically. Actually better when it comes to employment. And now the infection rate is much higher in Sweden. The Swedish experiment has failed dramatically in the nordic context.
We don't know that yet. Cases with the Norse & Danes are going up. The Finns just had their highest single day positives of 600+ - three times the highest single day number back in April. Sweden has hardly anyone hospitalized for Covid. Sweden has developed some level of T cell herd immunity. I anticipate their hospitalizations will stay low during this second or whatever wave is supposed to be happening in Europe right now. And if hospitalizations followed by deaths significantly increase with the Norse, Danes & Finns, then we'll know their wonderful lockdowns that you obviously endorse didn't do anything for herd immunity.
Furthermore, the vast majority of Sweden's deaths occurred in elderly care centers - where they failed miserably at protecting the most vulnerable. However, no one under 50 died of Covid and hospitalizations were very low with the younger demographics.
In terms of comparing Sweden to other countries in the EU they shined. Their deaths per million are significantly lower than those of Belgium, Spain, Italy & their closer neighbor - the UK. Sweden's economy fared fare better than over half of the countries in the EU. And the benefit Sweden got from not implemented a hard lockdown is their overdoses, heart attacks, suicides, etc., didn't spike like many other countries experienced during their lockdowns. And currently the UK, Spain, Italy & France are all blowing up like crazy despite those drocacian lockdowns that were supposed to solve the problem. Lol. (when you don't have the young & healthy exposed to the virus, you don't develop immunity...simple).
The funniest thing of all is the Imperial College of London (i.e. fearmongering) predicted last spring that if Sweden didn't implement a hard lockdown they would suffer 96,000 deaths by July 1. Well...that prediction is about 90,000 deaths short. Lol.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-better-sweden-does-on-the-coronavirus-the-angrier-they-get?fbclid=IwAR27VeVLJ3kz8ZGm2aTDP1hn6fuWOt3hEih_EVkf8HGViHdp13UnZKJXU3c
Agree. Imperial College, has been falsified to a astromical degree. The commentary in Washington Examiner is easy to falsifiy, too. And so are you when you claim that Finland has had 600+ in one day, never over 300. But Sweden over 800 some days ago. You also write that the death rate in Sweden is significantly lower than the other worst hit countries. Italy 600 per million, Sweden 583 as of yesterday. Spain 710, UK, which by the way locked down far too late, 633. You forgot Germany 116. And it is not true that Norway has a spike as high as Sweden, far from it. The T-cell theory, it is tecnologically complicated to verify, but the Swedes will come with a result a month or two from now. There is no herd immunity in Sweden. In Sweden 45 under 50 has died. Falsified again. Most in intensive care, agegroup 60-69 2) 50-59 3) 70-79. Yesterday 6 deaths in Sweden, today 8 and 678 Covid +. Norway 1 death the last week. If you get your numbers straight it would be a much more interesting discussion. Though, I agree. It aint over yet. But as of today Sweden has failed in this Nordic context. But what tomorrow will bring we do'nt know.