Democrats are forming a new "Me Too" movement for hypocrites.
Democrats are forming a new "Me Too" movement for hypocrites.
realist1 wrote:
Democrats are forming a new "Me Too" movement for hypocrites.
Republicans are hypocrites already.
Bidden 2021
Here's the kicker. You're getting a rapist no matter. And it will be Trump because both parties want Trump. Glad I don't live in America or pay taxes there. You people are screwed!
realist1 wrote:
Democrats are forming a new "Me Too" movement for hypocrites.
Biden is literally begging for "due process" with regard to the Reade allegations.
At this same exact time, he's calling for colleges to REMOVE DUE PROCESS for college students accused of sexual assault.
Biden and other democrats are the biggest hypocrites out there.
pesky evidence and records wrote:
Yes, Reade is substantiated and corroborated, by many people, with evidence as well.
This will not get a hearing. Both parties will make sure of that. If there is no hearing, Trump beats Biden, which is the Democrats' plan. First beat Bernie, next beat Biden. That's the DNC strategy for 2020. Rich Democrats and republicans in congress are the same: 1. christian and 2. all beneficiaries of Trump's amazing tax breaks. That's also marching orders from corporate. Make sure Trump wins. That's marching orders for both parties.
If there were a hearing, pressure could mount for Dems to put forward another candidate who could actually defeat Trump. Someone who can talk coherently and who doesn't rape. They might be forced to select another person at their convention, which they will avoid at all costs.
Trump is the candidate for both parties and that cannot be tampered with. So Biden must be the nominee for his weakness. You would need a non-rapist who can talk to have a chance to take out an incumbent POTUS.
Again, if there needs to be a hearing regarding Reade's accusation there should be about 20 regarding Trump. There has criticism about Biden's response, but Trump's reaction to all the accusations against him was they were all liars and he was going to sue them.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
pesky evidence and records wrote:
Yes, Reade is substantiated and corroborated, by many people, with evidence as well.
This will not get a hearing. Both parties will make sure of that. If there is no hearing, Trump beats Biden, which is the Democrats' plan. First beat Bernie, next beat Biden. That's the DNC strategy for 2020. Rich Democrats and republicans in congress are the same: 1. christian and 2. all beneficiaries of Trump's amazing tax breaks. That's also marching orders from corporate. Make sure Trump wins. That's marching orders for both parties.
If there were a hearing, pressure could mount for Dems to put forward another candidate who could actually defeat Trump. Someone who can talk coherently and who doesn't rape. They might be forced to select another person at their convention, which they will avoid at all costs.
Trump is the candidate for both parties and that cannot be tampered with. So Biden must be the nominee for his weakness. You would need a non-rapist who can talk to have a chance to take out an incumbent POTUS.
Again, if there needs to be a hearing regarding Reade's accusation there should be about 20 regarding Trump. There has criticism about Biden's response, but Trump's reaction to all the accusations against him was they were all liars and he was going to sue them.
Reade is essentially claiming that Biden committed a crime - which us what sexual assault is. Yet she never went to the police. If she had done that, although they could have investigated her complaint it would have been most unlikely that charges would have been brought, as she can apparently produce no evidence to support her claim. The testimony of family and friends would be hearsay and inadmissible, unless it was at the time of the alleged act and factually supportive of her claim in a detailed way. Given the inconsistencies in her story, if it were to go to court I would expect she would be utterly chewed up by defense counsel.
But nor did she make a formal complaint to her employers. There is no record of it. Biden knows that - which is why he can deny her accusation. She has also said that although she raised her concerns at the time she made no mention of the alleged sexual assault. From a legal point of view, her case is thin and her story can be dismissed as a fabrication. Yes - her claim may possibly be true, but there is nothing to prove it.
But even in the climate of #metoo, it would be unfair and unjust to condemn anyone who has been accused if there simply aren't enough facts to support the accusation. And every case must come down to what are the known facts. There are no other claims of a similar kind against Biden - standing too close, or being overly familiar, as some have suggested, doesn't support accusations of sexual assault - and so he should get the benefit of the doubt. If it were not so then anyone would be deemed guilty simply on the basis of an accusation and nothing more.
Armstronglivs wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Again, if there needs to be a hearing regarding Reade's accusation there should be about 20 regarding Trump. There has criticism about Biden's response, but Trump's reaction to all the accusations against him was they were all liars and he was going to sue them.
Reade is essentially claiming that Biden committed a crime - which us what sexual assault is. Yet she never went to the police. If she had done that, although they could have investigated her complaint it would have been most unlikely that charges would have been brought, as she can apparently produce no evidence to support her claim. The testimony of family and friends would be hearsay and inadmissible, unless it was at the time of the alleged act and factually supportive of her claim in a detailed way. Given the inconsistencies in her story, if it were to go to court I would expect she would be utterly chewed up by defense counsel.
But nor did she make a formal complaint to her employers. There is no record of it. Biden knows that - which is why he can deny her accusation. She has also said that although she raised her concerns at the time she made no mention of the alleged sexual assault. From a legal point of view, her case is thin and her story can be dismissed as a fabrication. Yes - her claim may possibly be true, but there is nothing to prove it.
But even in the climate of #metoo, it would be unfair and unjust to condemn anyone who has been accused if there simply aren't enough facts to support the accusation. And every case must come down to what are the known facts. There are no other claims of a similar kind against Biden - standing too close, or being overly familiar, as some have suggested, doesn't support accusations of sexual assault - and so he should get the benefit of the doubt. If it were not so then anyone would be deemed guilty simply on the basis of an accusation and nothing more.
Your ignorance is incredible. What you are saying is that men can do whatever they want to women and get away with it as long as there are no witnesses. You are saying women shouldn't even bother reporting it unless they can produce a witness or produce DNA. To quote Biden " “For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts, whether or not it’s been made worse or better over time."
Reade is INFINITELY more credible than Blaisey Ford and has substantiation. Blaisey Ford had NOTHING. She lied about being afraid to fly. She lied about building an addition to her house. She lied about many things. She couldn't remember the YEAR or LOCATION.
Reade's story has ZERO inconsistencies. The only "inconsistencies" you can point out is that she didn't initially report the sexual assault. It's EXTREMELY COMMON for victims to be afraid to report certain aspects of the incident. It's a very difficult thing to speak about, especially when dealing with someone as powerful as Biden. If she went to the police at the time she would have lost her job and her career. We now see her receiving death threats after speaking out, being bashed by the media, and insulted constantly via social media. It takes a lot of courage to come out and you can't blame her or any victim for taking time to build that courage.
Stop pretending you care Dunes, you don’t. You’re just an oddball on the spectrum.
The Lincoln Project wrote:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-sexual-assault-allegations-all-list-misconduct-karen-johnson-how-many-a9149216.htmlhttps://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegationhttps://theweek.com/articles/883818/epstein-conspiracy-theorists-have-conveniently-forgotten-about-trumpStop pretending you care Dunes, you don’t. You’re just an oddball on the spectrum.
I'm actually a Bernie supporter. Everyone knew Trump is a scumbag but he got elected anyway because Clinton would have been a worse president. Biden is a scumbag, a perv, a sexual assaulter, and liar (remember he lied about being arrested visiting Mandela, he lied about his academic accomplishments, etc). Biden is also senile and can't finish a thought. He is mentally unfit to be president and if you had any principles as a liberal you wouldn't support Biden either - he's a bigger friend of banks & credit card companies than Trump. Biden bailed out the banks while putting 5 million people out of their homes. So the banks got a huge cash payout on the taxpayer dime, AND they got their property back to sell and make even more money. Biden has voted for just about every regime change war. He's voted to cut social security. The affordable care act made healthcare more expensive while insurance companies saw their profits skyrocket. Biden shipped millions of jobs overseas to China.
There is still time to replace Biden as a candidate on the democrat ticket. Every moron like you who ignores these credible allegations is contributing to another TRUMP victory in November because Biden can't win.
fact checker 642572498 wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Reade is essentially claiming that Biden committed a crime - which us what sexual assault is. Yet she never went to the police. If she had done that, although they could have investigated her complaint it would have been most unlikely that charges would have been brought, as she can apparently produce no evidence to support her claim. The testimony of family and friends would be hearsay and inadmissible, unless it was at the time of the alleged act and factually supportive of her claim in a detailed way. Given the inconsistencies in her story, if it were to go to court I would expect she would be utterly chewed up by defense counsel.
But nor did she make a formal complaint to her employers. There is no record of it. Biden knows that - which is why he can deny her accusation. She has also said that although she raised her concerns at the time she made no mention of the alleged sexual assault. From a legal point of view, her case is thin and her story can be dismissed as a fabrication. Yes - her claim may possibly be true, but there is nothing to prove it.
But even in the climate of #metoo, it would be unfair and unjust to condemn anyone who has been accused if there simply aren't enough facts to support the accusation. And every case must come down to what are the known facts. There are no other claims of a similar kind against Biden - standing too close, or being overly familiar, as some have suggested, doesn't support accusations of sexual assault - and so he should get the benefit of the doubt. If it were not so then anyone would be deemed guilty simply on the basis of an accusation and nothing more.
Your ignorance is incredible. What you are saying is that men can do whatever they want to women and get away with it as long as there are no witnesses. You are saying women shouldn't even bother reporting it unless they can produce a witness or produce DNA. To quote Biden " “For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts, whether or not it’s been made worse or better over time."
Reade is INFINITELY more credible than Blaisey Ford and has substantiation. Blaisey Ford had NOTHING. She lied about being afraid to fly. She lied about building an addition to her house. She lied about many things. She couldn't remember the YEAR or LOCATION.
Reade's story has ZERO inconsistencies. The only "inconsistencies" you can point out is that she didn't initially report the sexual assault. It's EXTREMELY COMMON for victims to be afraid to report certain aspects of the incident. It's a very difficult thing to speak about, especially when dealing with someone as powerful as Biden. If she went to the police at the time she would have lost her job and her career. We now see her receiving death threats after speaking out, being bashed by the media, and insulted constantly via social media. It takes a lot of courage to come out and you can't blame her or any victim for taking time to build that courage.
I dont say that men can do whatever they want to women and get away with it if there are no witnesses. I am saying that without some kind of proof we cannot simply accept any accusation is true. You are maintaining Reade's claim as true on inadequate evidence. Your characterization of her claim is inaccurate and distorted.
fact checker 642572498 wrote:
The Lincoln Project wrote:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-sexual-assault-allegations-all-list-misconduct-karen-johnson-how-many-a9149216.htmlhttps://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegationhttps://theweek.com/articles/883818/epstein-conspiracy-theorists-have-conveniently-forgotten-about-trumpStop pretending you care Dunes, you don’t. You’re just an oddball on the spectrum.
I'm actually a Bernie supporter. Everyone knew Trump is a scumbag but he got elected anyway because Clinton would have been a worse president. Biden is a scumbag, a perv, a sexual assaulter, and liar (remember he lied about being arrested visiting Mandela, he lied about his academic accomplishments, etc). Biden is also senile and can't finish a thought. He is mentally unfit to be president and if you had any principles as a liberal you wouldn't support Biden either - he's a bigger friend of banks & credit card companies than Trump. Biden bailed out the banks while putting 5 million people out of their homes. So the banks got a huge cash payout on the taxpayer dime, AND they got their property back to sell and make even more money. Biden has voted for just about every regime change war. He's voted to cut social security. The affordable care act made healthcare more expensive while insurance companies saw their profits skyrocket. Biden shipped millions of jobs overseas to China.
There is still time to replace Biden as a candidate on the democrat ticket. Every moron like you who ignores these credible allegations is contributing to another TRUMP victory in November because Biden can't win.
Well, your cards are certainly on the table, with that vitriolic attack in Biden. You believe Reade because it suits you to. Not a shred of objectivity in anything you say.
"Reporters have called for Biden’s senatorial records at the University of Delaware to be searched, but Biden has refused to make such a request, and the papers are sealed to the public."
Hiding something, Joe?
The burden of proof remains on Biden. Denying a female rape victim is no longer relevant in light of the evidence. Denying things comes BEFORE a female rape victim brings evidence forward.
At this point Biden needs to clearly refute the evidence that Reade has to disprove her. He would 1. need to prove that she never reported it AND 2. have proof that her story cannot be corroborated by anyone.
That ship has long sailed. I'm really sorry.
Biden and Trump are both monumental losers, whom America deserves for supporting misogyny so brazenly. It's appalling. The irony is, you will get a rapey misogynist either way. The sad part of that irony is, you are ok with that and defending that. You deserve Trump. And you'll get him.
America is that stupid.
pesky evidence and records wrote:
"Reporters have called for Biden’s senatorial records at the University of Delaware to be searched, but Biden has refused to make such a request, and the papers are sealed to the public."
Hiding something, Joe?
The burden of proof remains on Biden. Denying a female rape victim is no longer relevant in light of the evidence. Denying things comes BEFORE a female rape victim brings evidence forward.
At this point Biden needs to clearly refute the evidence that Reade has to disprove her. He would 1. need to prove that she never reported it AND 2. have proof that her story cannot be corroborated by anyone.
That ship has long sailed. I'm really sorry.
Biden and Trump are both monumental losers, whom America deserves for supporting misogyny so brazenly. It's appalling. The irony is, you will get a rapey misogynist either way. The sad part of that irony is, you are ok with that and defending that. You deserve Trump. And you'll get him.
America is that stupid.
I have heard that you sexually assaulted a woman several years ago. Prove you didn't.
pesky evidence and records wrote:
"Reporters have called for Biden’s senatorial records at the University of Delaware to be searched, but Biden has refused to make such a request, and the papers are sealed to the public."
Hiding something, Joe?
The burden of proof remains on Biden. Denying a female rape victim is no longer relevant in light of the evidence. Denying things comes BEFORE a female rape victim brings evidence forward.
At this point Biden needs to clearly refute the evidence that Reade has to disprove her. He would 1. need to prove that she never reported it AND 2. have proof that her story cannot be corroborated by anyone.
That ship has long sailed. I'm really sorry.
Biden and Trump are both monumental losers, whom America deserves for supporting misogyny so brazenly. It's appalling. The irony is, you will get a rapey misogynist either way. The sad part of that irony is, you are ok with that and defending that. You deserve Trump. And you'll get him.
America is that stupid.
Doesn't seem like he's hiding anything:
The US Senate has rejected a request from Joe Biden, the Democratic presidential nominee, to search for and release any records of a 1993 complaint against him from an aide who has accused him of sexual assault.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/04/joe-biden-tara-reade-senate-records-reject-requestIt was a bright cold day in April...
johnny99 wrote:
pesky evidence and records wrote:
"Reporters have called for Biden’s senatorial records at the University of Delaware to be searched, but Biden has refused to make such a request, and the papers are sealed to the public."
Hiding something, Joe?
The burden of proof remains on Biden. Denying a female rape victim is no longer relevant in light of the evidence. Denying things comes BEFORE a female rape victim brings evidence forward.
At this point Biden needs to clearly refute the evidence that Reade has to disprove her. He would 1. need to prove that she never reported it AND 2. have proof that her story cannot be corroborated by anyone.
That ship has long sailed. I'm really sorry.
Biden and Trump are both monumental losers, whom America deserves for supporting misogyny so brazenly. It's appalling. The irony is, you will get a rapey misogynist either way. The sad part of that irony is, you are ok with that and defending that. You deserve Trump. And you'll get him.
America is that stupid.
Doesn't seem like he's hiding anything:
The US Senate has rejected a request from Joe Biden, the Democratic presidential nominee, to search for and release any records of a 1993 complaint against him from an aide who has accused him of sexual assault.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/04/joe-biden-tara-reade-senate-records-reject-request
The records would not be in the national archives and it would not be in the senate. If they exist, they'd be at the University of Delaware. In Biden's interview with Mika Brzyznsky, Biden said he WOULD NOT call for those to be released. When asked why, Biden gave a bumbling, confused answer where he said among other things that he didn't want his conversations with Putin to be revealed......
https://youtu.be/seu_C08yAAMOk, so he’s hiding something.
But why can’t you trust him based on his public groping of women and children without consent, common sense, or appropriate boundaries. What would eve make you think he raped a woman who came forward, ruining her name.
Are you slow?! Lol
The audacity of grope and irony.
Special guest speakers The Bill’s, Clinton and Cosby. MC Alyssa Milano. Weinstein to appear via live stream. The total lack of self-awareness by Democrats in supporting Trump-level douche bags makes the election moot. Just elect Trump and own who you really are, Democrats. Your party wants Trump to win anyway. Hence forcing Biden to be the nominee. He’s the decoy, as in the movie, Spies Like Us.
but but our rapist is BETTER wrote:
Ok, so he’s hiding something.
But why can’t you trust him based on his public groping of women and children without consent, common sense, or appropriate boundaries. What would eve make you think he raped a woman who came forward, ruining her name.
Are you slow?! Lol
Honestly the most insane thing is that the media is covering for him. I'd expect democrats to protect Biden, but the media should be objective. CNN had the archives of the Larry King show where Reade's mom called in. They refused to look into their own archives to corroborate it.
Bernie Sanders was winning the democratic primary by a wide margin when all of a sudden the media started attacking him and then it was all over.
Gillebrand might be the biggest hypocrite of them all, by the way:
https://youtu.be/o7cluKSz878?t=8Dunes obsessive on the spectrum Runner.