Drew Hunter - 2 mile TT prediction thread

8:47

He's no longer in HS. Why would he run a 3200?

Thomet hops in last minute to take revenge for NBNI 2015

iooooooo wrote:

You’re a weirdo and obsessive. Either you’re Tom under an alias doing even more self promotion or just a strange obsessive guy. Either way- lame.

There are currently no races, so seeing what one of the best runners in the US (part of the championship team) could do right now is interesting to anyone.

There is a thread about a random YouTuber doing a TT few posts down that got lots of pages. So having an actual ELITE runner do it who will likely represent the US at the Olympics one time should be of major interest.

We can't post/discuss races atm because there are none. So a professional runner doing a TT is the closest we can get, is interesting and would show us where they are at right now in training.

It's the opposite - this constant hate on anything that has "Tinman" in the post gets annoying, if this was about Chelimo, Mead, or True (the 3 runners who went to Doha 5k) no one would say anything negative.

Its a nice round number of laps and all the HS seniors who are losing their last season can relate to it. Plus it might be fun to run an event you haven't run since you were in high school. There's any number of reasons. He's not racing anytime soon so why not.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

He's no longer in HS. Why would he run a 3200?

According to Tinman, shorter races are easier to recover from (so you recover faster from a mile, than from a 5k, and faster from a 5k than from a 10k or HM). Also, at the level of these runners you can use calculators, like Jack Daniels to reasonably predict his 3k and 5k times based on what he runs in the 3200. These calculators are often spot on.

My point is that you obsessively and daily post about exclusively Drew Tom and the Tinman group.

The reason people have hate for them is they’re shameless self promoters who haven’t accomplished hardly anything outside of Drew Hunter. They all dress act and look the same- like frat boys with no personality. Dork.

8:26

Official predictions:

-Thousands of people not giving a sh!t

-Slower than anticipated

-at least 3 excuses or qualifiers from LateRunnerPhil about why it wasn’t faster

Also, LRP, the reason there wouldn’t be hate if it were Chelimi, Mead, or any other pro is because they don’t have a weird groupie trolling the boards dozens of times a day like you do.

Totally solo effort?

8:25.

8:47 with lots of excuses and then he gets injured the next day and then announces a few more bad runners are in his training group

With no pacer, I would expect a smidge under 8:30. If he has someone to help out 8:22-26. You're selling him a bit high as he's a dark horse to make the team again.

Here is the list of guys significantly better than him at 5K (if healthy):

Chelimo

Lomong

Centrowitz

Kincaid

Maybe he lucks out and Centro only runs the 1,500.

Here are guys who I'd give just as good a shot to make the team as him in 2021.:

Grant Fisher, Hassan Mead, Ben True, Ryan Hill, Tyler Day, Joe Klecker.

Hard to tell with that workout. It’s not really an indicator workout. Nothing wrong with that. Can he run 6 x 2:08 800m with 2 minutes rest? Bc then I would say 8:30

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

He's no longer in HS. Why would he run a 3200?

According to Tinman, shorter races are easier to recover from (so you recover faster from a mile, than from a 5k, and faster from a 5k than from a 10k or HM). Also, at the level of these runners you can use calculators, like Jack Daniels to reasonably predict his 3k and 5k times based on what he runs in the 3200. These calculators are often spot on.

I meant measuring off the extra 18 meters and making it a 2-mile.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

According to Tinman, shorter races are easier to recover from (so you recover faster from a mile, than from a 5k, and faster from a 5k than from a 10k or HM). Also, at the level of these runners you can use calculators, like Jack Daniels to reasonably predict his 3k and 5k times based on what he runs in the 3200. These calculators are often spot on.

I meant measuring off the extra 18 meters and making it a 2-mile.

Oh that's my bad, it actually is a 2-mile race. His PR in the event is 8:25, from 2019 USATF Indoor Championship which he won.

jhlkjhlkjhjlkhkl wrote:

8:47 with lots of excuses and then he gets injured the next day and then announces a few more bad runners are in his training group

I don't think that excuses will be necessary. This guy hasn't raced for 10 months. Give him a break. Even if training is going well (which it is), a race is a different beast and without having had a race for such a long time it is questionable to what level he could perform.

I agree that pacemaker would make a difference, the only option he has in Virginia is his brother Jacob Hunter, who ran 4:13 in the 1600 which means he could be good for pacing 3-4 laps.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

With no pacer, I would expect a smidge under 8:30. If he has someone to help out 8:22-26. You're selling him a bit high as he's a dark horse to make the team again.

Here is the list of guys significantly better than him at 5K (if healthy):

Chelimo

Lomong

Centrowitz

Kincaid

Maybe he lucks out and Centro only runs the 1,500.

Here are guys who I'd give just as good a shot to make the team as him in 2021.:

Grant Fisher, Hassan Mead, Ben True, Ryan Hill, Tyler Day, Joe Klecker.

I definitely didn't want to sell him as better than he is. He "only" made Doha due to having the standard, he was "only" 5th at the trials.

Your post is very good and I agree with it, but I would like to add that Drew Hunter is only 22-years old. He is only a pro for 3-4 years, and it will take more time to catch up with the guys you mentioned that have many years more experience than he has. In terms of potential, if he develops well over the next years he is definitely someone to keep an eye on during the next few years.

Why is that his only option? There are plenty of college guys who are home right now.