Vitamin D and Covid19 mortality

Sweden's non-shutdown has resulted in surprisingly good outcomes. Why? Maybe it's vitamin D. This study found that Swedes were significantly higher in vitamin D levels compared to Spain, Italy, the Middle East, and Americans.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4432023/

Even more so, Iceland. They are getting plenty of D through their diet, despite being sun-constrained most of the year. Also a likely factor in NE Asian low-morbidity.

Vitamin D levels in Americans are less than half now what they were in the 1980's.

Precious Roy's idea of how this disease affects you in not fully correct.

SARS-CoV-19 likely causes acute oxidative stress. Vitamin D does have a cause and effect relationship in that model. The comorbidities are likely related to your bodies ability to deal with oxidative stress. Vitamin D might not be the best antioxidant, but antioxidants definitely help mitigate oxidative stress.

Yet another study finds a strong correlation between vitamin D deficiency and Covid 19 severity and mortality. This time, it's a study of 20 nations! I urge everyone to post this and the other vitamin D studies on your Facebook pages AND tell your parents and grandparents. It is borderline malfeasance that Fauci and the Surgeon General aren't telling people to take vitamin D3. It's up to us to get the word out.

https://www.grassrootshealth.net/blog/first-data-published-covid-19-severity-vitamin-d-levels/?fbclid=IwAR1gU2369ERo9xF_ONWTDztjmaeXaKmbJJclX5lMiVkp51f7_FsgollbUOs

I was looking at vitamin D, but I came across something interesting with B12 case study. I imagine this kind of thing happens all the time. It sounds like she recovered with vitamin supplements.

A 27-year-old woman presented with confusion, agitation and fever. Having initially been treated as an infective encephalitis case her initial and subsequent lumbar punctures revealed cerebrospinal fluid with a worsening pleocytosis and elevated protein. It was initially felt she had been suffering from tuberculous meningitis and started on treatment it later became apparent that she had a severe vitamin B12 deficiency related to recreational nitrous oxide use.

One interesting thing about the above is that tuberculosis has been shown to use up a person's B12 supplies. I imagine other bacterial infections also directly affect you nutrient levels.

I bet there is an answer to this with respect to flu seasonality. I know that I saw that they believe it is due to heat and humidity, but your vitamin D and B vitamins levels are seasonal too. You generally have B deficiencies in late winter and early spring. The study I read says this is due to diet, but that doesn't seem definitive. D vitamin levels are also seasonal due to sun exposure.

fisky wrote:

Sweden's non-shutdown has resulted in surprisingly good outcomes. Why? Maybe it's vitamin D. This study found that Swedes were significantly higher in vitamin D levels compared to Spain, Italy, the Middle East, and Americans.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4432023/

Go Sweden!

"Sweden Revises Covid Strategy After Deaths of Elderly Spiral"

fisky wrote:

Sweden's non-shutdown has resulted in surprisingly good outcomes. Why? Maybe it's vitamin D. This study found that Swedes were significantly higher in vitamin D levels compared to Spain, Italy, the Middle East, and Americans.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4432023/

Supplementation and fortification of foods is more common there. The Vikings know what they're doing.

Sweden is also near the top in milk consumption. If you believe the oxidative stress model of disease applies to COVID-19, then any antioxidants would likely be important. I think that B12 is near the top of the list, but it appears that glutathione is very important. Cysteine and selenium are then also important.

There are a lot of studies that say it may help with respiratory diseases, but they always seem to say it isn't conclusive.

So I type it in and here there it is.

"Although mechanism(s) linking vitamin D status to these chronic metabolic diseases has not been elucidated, it is possible that vitamin D status, by impacting oxidative stress and/or inflammation, may contribute to disease risk."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4115025/

This seemed pretty informative.

Is that a typo? 100,000 deaths due to respiratory syncytial virus?

"In the elderly population of the USA, about 100 000 deaths due to RSV and 36 000 deaths due to influenza occur each year, according to the World Health Organization (WHO)."

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/epidemiology-and-infection/article/does-vitamin-d-protect-against-respiratory-viral-infections/7FDF0857C837FD464453882220BB7B29/core-reader

pointer outer wrote:

roscoe. wrote:

So look up vitamin D correlation with each of those co-morbidity factors you mention, you will be pleasantly surprised. Obviously no one is saying you can live a horrendous lifestyle and avoid disease though a vitamin D pill.

Precious Roy's idea of how this disease affects you in not fully correct.

SARS-CoV-19 likely causes acute oxidative stress. Vitamin D does have a cause and effect relationship in that model. The comorbidities are likely related to your bodies ability to deal with oxidative stress. Vitamin D might not be the best antioxidant, but antioxidants definitely help mitigate oxidative stress.

Yes...it's the best for respiratory viral infections. I had a very bad respiratory infection back in the first week of Feb - the worst I've ever experienced (maybe COVID-19, though the doctor I saw said it was a severe case of the flu). Anyway, it walloped me pretty damn good; bedridden for 5 days and lost 12 lbs. Nothing was working until I ramped up my D3 intake and significant improvement was seen right away. It took about 2 weeks to get my strength & cardiovascular fitness back. I definitely don't leave home without my D3 - it's affordable, natural & efficacious.

D3 can also downregulate the cytokine storm some people get from viral infections:

fisky wrote:

It's so frustrating that Fauci et al doesn't mention this in his press conferences. Over 60% of Americans are "severely deficient" in vitamin D using the standards in this study. Among Blacks, it's more like 85%.

Vitamin D is in sunshine. Vitamin D3 costs about 5 cents/day for 5,000 IU. Given the low cost and low risk... and the other health benefits of vitamin D... I take 5,000 IU every day.

This is a good study and this virus brings out the need to prioritize building your immune system.

5000IU!! You must be in an office and have now quarantined during daylight.

I'm in Midwest work outside during spring summer/run ride my bike between 10am-3pm on weekends. The last test I had was 58ng/ml. NO Supplementation.

To those who cannot get tested, when outside expose arms/legs your liver can store or not store VD from sunlight.

At 58ng/ml, if I were to supplement 5000IU/day in less than a week I would go the other way as Too much causes high blood calcium leading to osteoblasts/bone pain, high BP,

Thanks to the many posters who've added actual information to this thread. (I'm getting better at automatically discounting the people who simply make unfounded political comments.)

Special thanks to "AdiVector" for reminding us that too much D3 supplementation presents problems of its own. Try to resist the standard American pill philosophy ("If some is good, a lot must be a lot better!") and steer a middle course.

it would be useful to know, across these papers, how many cases total, and how many cases have been observed in people with high levels of vitamin d (or appropriate levels of d). my understanding is that in the u.s., so few people have appropriate vit d levels that we might not be able to say much statistically about cases in american patients with vit d. i imagine this might be true worldwide too. and then, even if we could say something, because in some places the population is large enough, it seems like itd be awfully difficult to rule out associated lifestyle and environmental factors while retaining statistically useful numbers. which is not to say i dont believe vitamin d is useful; instead, im not at all sure i know what these papers are telling us yet.

Just remember that all of this started because of meat eaters like YMMV went to a wet market.

Between sunlight and vitamin D seems like everyone just needs to move to Ecuador https://www.accuweather.com/en/health-wellness/severity-of-covid-19-may-depend-on-where-youre-located-on-the-map/734371

high times wrote:

it would be useful to know, across these papers, how many cases total, and how many cases have been observed in people with high levels of vitamin d (or appropriate levels of d). my understanding is that in the u.s., so few people have appropriate vit d levels that we might not be able to say much statistically about cases in american patients with vit d. i imagine this might be true worldwide too. and then, even if we could say something, because in some places the population is large enough, it seems like itd be awfully difficult to rule out associated lifestyle and environmental factors while retaining statistically useful numbers. which is not to say i dont believe vitamin d is useful; instead, im not at all sure i know what these papers are telling us yet.

I would also like to see a study on this. Still, the evidence so far is compelling. To me, it's borderline criminal that doctors aren't saying, "Exercise! Lose weight. Get 10 minutes of sunlight or take a D3 supplement every day."

Looks like you genius' have it all figured out.