Nick Bare 4:54 mile

Rhodium Nights wrote:

Regardless of the time, the real question is why bother?

A fast mile has absolutely nothing to do with running sub 3 and getting to Boston, which is Nick's stated goal...I thought he had a coach? He's all over the place.

He needs to work on his endurance and his pacing and probably drop a good deal of weight too.

Unless he doesn't want to go sub 3 anymore and his goals have changed.

It's probably already been said through all this nonsense but it's May. He's not running a marathon any time soon. Improving at the mile as a recreational runner trying to become an age group type isn't a bad idea. You're only going to lower what is possible for the marathon. You still have to do the training & build endurance but that'll come for him in the summer/fall if he can run a marathon in the fall.

As for everything else, he makes content that a lot of people like. If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to watch. I'm pretty impressed that someone that jacked can run 4:53 on the roads.

Daniels gives a 4:53 a 2:40 marathon. I'm sure this guy will have more difficulty holding shorter distanced conversions but he should be able to give sub-3 a go.

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Don't Hate, Appreciate wrote:

do 8th grade girls walk around at 200lbs, are better built & stronger than 99% of NFL half backs with elite USAPL raw totals, and can run sub-5?

speaking of 8th graders... your critical thinking skills are pretty on-par with them lol ?

So he’s really good at one thing: “being built”

And okay at another: running about as fast as the top 13-year-old girls.

Should I be equally impressed with a 3:57 miler that can also shoot 70% from the foul line?

OP is right. Your critical thinking skills are clearly around an 8th grader's.. even if you're a troll and don't seriously mean the crap you post about, you're a pretty terrible troll... at least the good ones make compelling arguments.

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

Lenny Leonard wrote:

This made me snort.

Then that is shows your ignorance because we is use established conversion charts to come up with these equivalencies.

I wouldn't bother with u/Rhodium Nights or u/Lenny Leonard... both are either willfully ignorant & bAcK iN My DaY i COuldVe RAn FasTEr types or are just terrible trolls. Not worth your time brotha.

Better athlete than letsrun legend Matt London?

Charles Martel wrote:

Why is it so crazy that a new runner (especially a heavier one) is better at shorter distances? How many high schoolers with a 4:53 mile PR could go sub-3? Many of them have probably never run more 8 miles in their lives.

Lifting weights and running low mileage=decent anaerobic engine and bad endurance and aerobic capacity.

I agree with you, it's not crazy that he's better at shorter distances. That's my whole point.

I was responding to barty maxwell who keeps referring to him as an Athletics God and a freak of nature, which is clearly an absurd exaggeration. There are a lot of strong dudes out there..

insertname wrote:

Imagine being so slow you think that PEDs are required for a healthy male to run a 4:53 mile.

no one said that, it is just the fact that he ran 3:20 marathon 2 moths ago..

Charles Martel wrote:

Why is it so crazy that a new runner (especially a heavier one) is better at shorter distances? How many high schoolers with a 4:53 mile PR could go sub-3? Many of them have probably never run more 8 miles in their lives.

Lifting weights and running low mileage=decent anaerobic engine and bad endurance and aerobic capacity.

Yea I know I could prob not go sub 3 and I ran 4:48 in the mile. I believe his time though it looked slightly down hill at the beginning until like the end where it was slightly up hill. Also the watch is always slightly fast so it was probably would have been more like a 4:55-4:57 on the track

toyoe wrote:

There is a 100% chance that this guy is injecting steroids into his ass every day. And then competing in races where such substances are banned. That’s immoral in my opinion.

I could care less if he’s taking steroids... he’s not a professional athlete & most important it’s not my body. Makes me proud of myself because I’m faster than him without 4% shoes & steroids so that’s a win for me lol. If you continues to drop his mile time then we’ll all know there’s something suspicious. His 5k time is weak so I don’t think he’ll run a lot faster (unless you drops his 5k time too)

bartholomew, Nick Bare is not a genetic freak at all. There are tons of guys like him on YouTube, they just don't focus on running but focus on Cross Fit or Plyo work. A genetic freak would be running 22-seconds for 200 meters and then running a 15-min 5000m like Isaiah Harris just did or what Donovan Brazier does. I used to race Clyde Colenso and he was probably 6'2 and 180lbs and ran a 3:35 or so for 1500m.

I found some actual race results that aren't doctored for YouTube for Nick Bare. Please confirm if this is his age as the drugs have done some damage to his face and can't tell how young he is

http://www.marathonguide.com/results/browse.cfm?MIDD=5200216&Gen=B&Begin=145&End=244&Max=2791

http://www.marathonguide.com/results/browse.cfm?MIDD=5190217&Gen=B&Begin=1023&End=1122&Max=2650

I have no problem with Nick Bare, and I understand this was a road mile challenge per his coach/team's directive. The two data points we have are that he ran a 1600 in 5:14, and a 4950 in 18:29(something like that). This is a big leap forward. Having a pacer definitely helps, but a downhill course and GPS inaccuracy might help as well. Either way, he's getting better but I don't think he's super-human.

Don't Hate, Appreciate wrote:

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Is Nick Bare an 8th grade girl? Otherwise, not impressed.

do 8th grade girls walk around at 200lbs, are better built & stronger than 99% of NFL half backs with elite USAPL raw totals, and can run sub-5?

speaking of 8th graders... your critical thinking skills are pretty on-par with them lol ?

Just in case you were not aware, run sub-5 isn't impressive. Not even if you are overweight.

I think that it is awesome Nick Bare is out there building his business. So what if he using YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram as his primary advertising promotions. Shoot, he could be paying big bucks to an advertising firm. I wish that I had the same business model. He built a performance nutrition company from nothing. He gets to run and workout in his company's custom built warehouse gym (all other gyms are closed right now). He is the man of his own destiny and not working for some huge company. And, he has the "Let's Run" pile on the advertising for free with idiotic threads, and I wouldn't put it passed Nick to have his own employees as posting on Let's Run. He's a pretty smart dude.

Good for him. I'm impressed that he ran that fast at that weight. He's been putting in the work over the last 5 months with a lot of miles and it's showing.

He has CLEARLY used PED's in the past to accomplish his physique, which does raise questions in my mind as to if he would be willing to use them for running.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nattyorjuice/comments/a1srg6/is_nick_bare_natural_claims_he_is_ex_us_army/

finallyransub17 wrote:

Good for him. I'm impressed that he ran that fast at that weight. He's been putting in the work over the last 5 months with a lot of miles and it's showing.

He has CLEARLY used PED's in the past to accomplish his physique, which does raise questions in my mind as to if he would be willing to use them for running.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nattyorjuice/comments/a1srg6/is_nick_bare_natural_claims_he_is_ex_us_army/

LMAO this is the first I am seeing of this photo. At the time it was taken, he was absolutely jacked, IMO.

And also IMO, once a user, always a user—not just continuing benefit from past use, but a character type that is always willing to take what it takes to achieve a goal.

In which he went out at 6:30 pace for the first 10k and then bonked.

Marathon times aren't relevant to mile times, and bonked marathon times aren't relevant to anything.

The guy sucks at pacing and was helped immensely by having a very good pacer.

insertname wrote:

In which he went out at 6:30 pace for the first 10k and then bonked.

Marathon times aren't relevant to mile times, and bonked marathon times aren't relevant to anything.

The guy sucks at pacing and was helped immensely by having a very good pacer.

Really??? They are pretty relevant to measure your ability to run a marathon successfully...and everything that goes along with that such as proper training, fueling, tapering, nutrition...etc....

Saying his time isn't relevant because he bonked is patently absurd.

nick symmonds mile track PR : 4:39

symmonds nick bounce shoes PR: 3:54

using that difference bare should have 5:50 capable on a track, which makes sense with his 10k blow up at the marathon

San Diego Hobby Jogger wrote:

nick symmonds mile track PR : 4:39

symmonds nick bounce shoes PR: 3:54

using that difference bare should have 5:50 capable on a track, which makes sense with his 10k blow up at the marathon

Get a life brah brah.