Ask any licensed MD if they REALLY think it's safe to open the economy right now and you'll likely be hard pressed to find any

Asking a MD about whether to open the economy would be like asking an economist what to do about pneumonia. Say something about epidemiologists and I’d take you seriously

I heard most of the licensed doctors are in on this. At least the ones in the hospitals running interference for Big Vent are. Follow the $$$$$ (greenback).

I’m sticking with what Allen53 tells me. He knows best.

Define fact in the year 2020 (USA) wrote:

Ask any licensed MD if they really think it's safe (cmon be honest) to open the economy right now and you'll likely be hard pressed to find any (unless a lunatic)

No, Dr. Oz doesn't count and neither do D.C.s

Such is true.

I'm pretty sure you'll find plenty who think it's a good idea. My neighbor is a licensed MD and practicing physician. They are the ones going out to pick up dinner regularly and shopping at stores. Here we are hunkered down trying not to go out for weeks at a time. I'm pretty sure if you're around this stuff enough the fear factor wears off. Just like any job with perceived risks.

Ask anyone with a PHD in economics if they REALLY think it's safe to extend the lockdowns and you'll likely be hard pressed to find any

Define fact in the year 2020 (USA) wrote:

Ask any licensed MD if they really think it's safe

Dr. Stephen Smith said, "I think this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic. I’m very serious."

Define fact in the year 2020 (USA) wrote:

Ask any licensed MD if they really think it's safe (cmon be honest) to open the economy right now and you'll likely be hard pressed to find any (unless a lunatic)

No, Dr. Oz doesn't count and neither do D.C.s

False!

and? wrote:

Asking a MD about whether to open the economy would be like asking an economist what to do about pneumonia.

Worse than this. About a few hundred competent economists graduate every year while tens of thousands of doctors do. Probably 80% or more of docs could not answer the pneumonia question well.

The ones not earning money from elective procedures probably would try to open it, though.

Facts Matter? wrote:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/nyc-coronavirus-front-line-doctor-calls-for-end-to-lockdown

“The way this transpired tells me the ebb and flow had more to do with the natural course of the outbreak than it did with the lockdown,” he emphasized."

Who ever has money isnt in a t r ush to do anything .

facts and reason wrote:

Define fact in the year 2020 (USA) wrote:

Ask any licensed MD if they really think it's safe

https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-stephen-smith-on-effectiveness-of-hydroxychloroquine-with-coronavirus-symptoms-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-pandemic

Dr. Stephen Smith said, "I think this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic. I’m very serious."

I would like this harsh women to punch me in the kisser .

Syndicate wrote:

I heard most of the licensed doctors are in on this. At least the ones in the hospitals running interference for Big Vent are. Follow the $$$$$ (greenback).

“Most of the licensed doctors” never left their hospital, clinic, ER, or acute case operating room. My goodness, where do you come up with these crazy scenarios? Do you think they sit around and twiddle their thumbs looking for people to screw over?

If you have an open mind, listen to Dr. Katz interview with Bill Maher (last show, it's on YouTube). It is not safe, but we only have bad options, and we need to find a middle ground.

I personally think more poor people, including children, will starve in third world countries because of the economic collapse than die directly from Covid-19. But they don't have a lobby unlike obese unhealthy 75 year old men.

Define fact in the year 2020 (USA) wrote:

Ask any licensed MD if they really think it's safe (cmon be honest) to open the economy right now and you'll likely be hard pressed to find any (unless a lunatic)

No, Dr. Oz doesn't count and neither do D.C.s

You are incredibly ignorant if you think all licensed MDs have the same opinion about anything.

This oversimplified narrative that it's all the experts on one side versus all the ignoramuses on the other side is simply not true. Not to mention, the most authoritative experts have been wrong multiple times already regarding this pandemic. Remember when many experts told us "MASKS DON'T WORK"? The experts are not unified in their opinions, and they aren't always correct.

And really you're asking the wrong question. It's never going to be completely safe to re-open the economy. Cars aren't safe. We use them anyway. Doctors, scientists, epidemiologists, etc. can guesstimate about the relative risk levels of various scenarios, but they cannot tell us how much risk is worth taking. I don't think there is a definitive, black-and-white, right-or-wrong answer. People who think in those terms annoy me to no end. It's a spectrum with a lot of gray in the middle, and pretending that there is a simple and obvious correct answer is the hallmark of a simple and ignorant person.

[quote]Define fact in the year 2020 (USA) wrote:

Ask any licensed MD if they really think it's safe (cmon be honest) to open the economy right now and you'll likely be hard pressed to find any (unless a lunatic)

Any you know this how?

Are you asking the doctors at the hospitals they are sending all the nurses home from because there is nothing to do?

Doctors in a lot of states have been furloughed due to coronavirus (you know in those hospitals that are running at 30% capacity in most states) and would probably love to get back to work (you do understand that there are loads of doctors that are not emergency room, hospitalists or infectious disease doctors) and are probably having a hard time paying their bills, as in many states unemployment maxes out at around $500 or so (it varies widely). Even if they are getting $600 a week from the Feds, Most doctors I know make about $5,000 a week, so if their budget has been designed around that (mortgage, student loan payments, retirement, au pair, etc.) and they are only bringing in $1,100 a week, they could be having a hard time making ends meet. We are friends with a couple that are both doctors. Their credit card bill regularly eclipses $20,000 a month. To act like doctors are somehow insulated from the economic concerns we all have is ludicrous. Outside of a handful of states in the Northeast, Michigan, Illinois and Louisiana, this has not been that different than a flu season (other than the hospitals want you to dress up like Dark Helmet from Space Balls to see patients).