Current pr’s: 19:10 5k, 4:51 mile, 1k 2:57, 800 2:16
I have been running mainly 25-30 miles with some over 30
I am trying to build up to 45-50 miles
I don’t have a race for 5-6 months
I am look for some advice on what I should be doing in base phase
Current pr’s: 19:10 5k, 4:51 mile, 1k 2:57, 800 2:16
I have been running mainly 25-30 miles with some over 30
I am trying to build up to 45-50 miles
I don’t have a race for 5-6 months
I am look for some advice on what I should be doing in base phase
Sub 17 is not happening.
If you can give me an explanation to why you don’t think it won’t happen would be much appreciated because my mile time equates to a sub 17 5k and I have barely ever ran over 30 miles a week. I also have only been running for 2 years. So just coming in here and saying that is a bit rude. I have read around and to me it seems like a pretty realistic goal. Especially since the 4:51 was run 3-4 months after that 5k. I also ran Sub 11 in the 3200
So I would just like to hear your reasoning behind that response
aadude wrote:
If you can give me an explanation to why you don’t think it won’t happen would be much appreciated because my mile time equates to a sub 17 5k and I have barely ever ran over 30 miles a week. I also have only been running for 2 years. So just coming in here and saying that is a bit rude. I have read around and to me it seems like a pretty realistic goal. Especially since the 4:51 was run 3-4 months after that 5k. I also ran Sub 11 in the 3200
So I would just like to hear your reasoning behind that response
I was also thinking the same thing we have the same pr in the mile but my 2 mile is slightly faster I ran 10:46. That’s why I asked because I do think it is very possible
with your mile time you should be capable of breaking 17. i had a 1600 that was slower than your mile and did it.
yeah just keep training and it will happen. maybe you are already close to sub 17 fitness
this can help you.
Thank You
Your 5k PR is your 5k PR. Usain Bolt holds the world record in the 200 so he should be able to run 42 in the 400 which equates to 1:39 in the 800. His equivalent 5k would be 12:30 except he would probably run 20 minutes. You come here and provide your PR and training, then don't be upset when we give you an opinion. You will probably never break 18. I don't know you so it is not rude. I am just basing my opinion on the facts.
30mpw isn’t very much. Try running more.
run more not less wrote:
Your 5k PR is your 5k PR. Usain Bolt holds the world record in the 200 so he should be able to run 42 in the 400 which equates to 1:39 in the 800. His equivalent 5k would be 12:30 except he would probably run 20 minutes. You come here and provide your PR and training, then don't be upset when we give you an opinion. You will probably never break 18. I don't know you so it is not rude. I am just basing my opinion on the facts.
dont listen to this troll. Fing idiot^
Instead of trying to build to 45-50 miles per week, why don’t you try to build up to running a 5k in under 17?
A troll is someone who is intentionally disruptive on the internet. That would be the definition of your post, not mine. Name calling and insults are forms of trolling. Directly answering a question that was posed, is the opposite of trolling.
Lenny Leonard wrote:
Instead of trying to build to 45-50 miles per week, why don’t you try to build up to running a 5k in under 17?
I really dig this answer, nailed it in one.
Mileage is whatever your mileage ends up as. Get a plan going, work out your weekness(es) and do workouts/runs that will hopefully improve that.
Quick glance, you already have the required speed for 1 mile, you just need the fitness to carry that out over 3 and a bit miles. I'd also work on racing more (OK well a time trial in current climate). Try and do a 5K/10K regularly, get used to that end portion pain, a lot of it is mental.
LOL your mile time doesnt really indicate much at all regarding your 5k ability. You cant pinpoint a 5k time based on mile. Sure you could guess a range though. 5k time really depends on your endurance whereas in a mile you can get away with not having great endurance and still run a good time.
A 420 miler with poor endurance would run a 16:00 5k while a 420 miler with very good endurance could manage a 15:00 5k.
inner cramps1 wrote:
LOL your mile time doesnt really indicate much at all regarding your 5k ability. You cant pinpoint a 5k time based on mile. Sure you could guess a range though. 5k time really depends on your endurance whereas in a mile you can get away with not having great endurance and still run a good time.
A 420 miler with poor endurance would run a 16:00 5k while a 420 miler with very good endurance could manage a 15:00 5k.
Yes, I do agree with this that’s why I plan on working on my endurance in the upcoming months.
HITHEREYOU wrote:
Lenny Leonard wrote:
Instead of trying to build to 45-50 miles per week, why don’t you try to build up to running a 5k in under 17?
I really dig this answer, nailed it in one.
Mileage is whatever your mileage ends up as. Get a plan going, work out your weekness(es) and do workouts/runs that will hopefully improve that.
Quick glance, you already have the required speed for 1 mile, you just need the fitness to carry that out over 3 and a bit miles. I'd also work on racing more (OK well a time trial in current climate). Try and do a 5K/10K regularly, get used to that end portion pain, a lot of it is mental.
Okay, I think one of my main weakness is the fact Over the last 2 years I have not done many tempo runs. It’s kind just been easy running and then fast intervals
As a young runner, it can be hard to be patient, but that's what it's going to take. Your speed is good, but it's going to take some time and training to improve at longer distances.
One thing that can help is setting incremental goals. So instead of "planning" to run 17, keep that as a long-term goal, but look at 18:30 as the next step along the path. When you get to 18:30, then your next goal is 18:00, etc.
Same idea with the mileage. If you're at 25-30, get comfortable wit 30-35, then 35-40, etc. Keep 50 as a goal, but don't worry about how long it takes to get there.
For improving strength over a longer distance, an easy introduction is to just pick one day a week and run at least half of your run at 30 sec per mile faster than your easy pace. If that goes well, then next week same pace, but add a mile (or a specific amount of time like 5 min) to the fast part of your run.
Bullet the Blue Sky wrote:
As a young runner, it can be hard to be patient, but that's what it's going to take. Your speed is good, but it's going to take some time and training to improve at longer distances.
One thing that can help is setting incremental goals. So instead of "planning" to run 17, keep that as a long-term goal, but look at 18:30 as the next step along the path. When you get to 18:30, then your next goal is 18:00, etc.
Same idea with the mileage. If you're at 25-30, get comfortable wit 30-35, then 35-40, etc. Keep 50 as a goal, but don't worry about how long it takes to get there.
For improving strength over a longer distance, an easy introduction is to just pick one day a week and run at least half of your run at 30 sec per mile faster than your easy pace. If that goes well, then next week same pace, but add a mile (or a specific amount of time like 5 min) to the fast part of your run.
Thank you. Do you think I should do that and a tempo run in a week because the thing is I struggle a lot with tempos. That’s why I hate doing them I don’t know what pace to run. Like some days 6:40-6:50 mile pace for 3 miles is not that bad but other days I am super tired after the first mile
I have a question should tempo run be implemented right at the beginning or should you build up to the mileage u want to be at first
iooop wrote:
I have a question should tempo run be implemented right at the beginning or should you build up to the mileage u want to be at first
Do them from the beginning