Yale Daily News article says August/September start for colleges is mostly “off the table”.

wejo wrote:

Colleges are super super risk averse. Having said that people of college age seem to be the ones who should be getting back to normal if it can be done responsibly.

Covid by and large does not kill people of college age. I’m sure you can find an exception or two and you have to worry about workers getting infected but I’d like to know the logic of delaying starting college until later in the fall when the weather is worse?

Is covid supposed to go away by late fall? I don’t think so so Some one fill me in on logic of delay to when people have to be indoors more. Cancelling the entire semester makes more sense to me than delaying. But I’d like to see if we can start up on time. And also what about regional approaches and see how more measured social distancing guidelines work. Locking down is an extreme measure for extreme circumstances . How much worse is the disease with society carrying on but with distancing etc.? That is the question.

And we will see some of that as other countries and states open up in various measures.

Partying and irresponsible behavior will be a concern no matter the time of year and I don’t see what a delay does.

Also seems like we should be having summer camps for kids this summer. Kids are By and large not at risk of this. Outdoor activities seem fine to me. We did the most extreme measure possible and now need to pull this back layer by layer.

wejo wrote:

Colleges are super super risk averse. Having said that people of college age seem to be the ones who should be getting back to normal if it can be done responsibly.

Covid by and large does not kill people of college age. I’m sure you can find an exception or two and you have to worry about workers getting infected but I’d like to know the logic of delaying starting college until later in the fall when the weather is worse?

Is covid supposed to go away by late fall? I don’t think so so Some one fill me in on logic of delay to when people have to be indoors more. Cancelling the entire semester makes more sense to me than delaying. But I’d like to see if we can start up on time. And also what about regional approaches and see how more measured social distancing guidelines work. Locking down is an extreme measure for extreme circumstances . How much worse is the disease with society carrying on but with distancing etc.? That is the question.

And we will see some of that as other countries and states open up in various measures.

Partying and irresponsible behavior will be a concern no matter the time of year and I don’t see what a delay does.

Also seems like we should be having summer camps for kids this summer. Kids are By and large not at risk of this. Outdoor activities seem fine to me. We did the most extreme measure possible and now need to pull this back layer by layer.

i'm your sister wrote:

wejo wrote:

Colleges are super super risk averse. Having said that people of college age seem to be the ones who should be getting back to normal if it can be done responsibly.

Covid by and large does not kill people of college age. I’m sure you can find an exception or two and you have to worry about workers getting infected but I’d like to know the logic of delaying starting college until later in the fall when the weather is worse?

Is covid supposed to go away by late fall? I don’t think so so Some one fill me in on logic of delay to when people have to be indoors more. Cancelling the entire semester makes more sense to me than delaying. But I’d like to see if we can start up on time. And also what about regional approaches and see how more measured social distancing guidelines work. Locking down is an extreme measure for extreme circumstances . How much worse is the disease with society carrying on but with distancing etc.? That is the question.

And we will see some of that as other countries and states open up in various measures.

Partying and irresponsible behavior will be a concern no matter the time of year and I don’t see what a delay does.

Also seems like we should be having summer camps for kids this summer. Kids are By and large not at risk of this. Outdoor activities seem fine to me. We did the most extreme measure possible and now need to pull this back layer by layer.

Rojo - you realize that there is more to college than getting "college age" students back right? What about all the professors, session lecturers, admin, janitorial staff, library staff, security staff, lab techs, etc. etc. etc. etc.

wejo wrote:

Colleges are super super risk averse. Having said that people of college age seem to be the ones who should be getting back to normal if it can be done responsibly.

Covid by and large does not kill people of college age. I’m sure you can find an exception or two and you have to worry about workers getting infected but I’d like to know the logic of delaying starting college until later in the fall when the weather is worse?

Is covid supposed to go away by late fall? I don’t think so so Some one fill me in on logic of delay to when people have to be indoors more. Cancelling the entire semester makes more sense to me than delaying. But I’d like to see if we can start up on time. And also what about regional approaches and see how more measured social distancing guidelines work. Locking down is an extreme measure for extreme circumstances . How much worse is the disease with society carrying on but with distancing etc.? That is the question.

And we will see some of that as other countries and states open up in various measures.

Partying and irresponsible behavior will be a concern no matter the time of year and I don’t see what a delay does.

Also seems like we should be having summer camps for kids this summer. Kids are By and large not at risk of this. Outdoor activities seem fine to me. We did the most extreme measure possible and now need to pull this back layer by layer.

EJruns wrote:

Just for the sake of transparency, I am an american who went back to school after working for a few years, now studying abroad in a post grad program. You misunderstood my point. I'm not claiming that its impossible to get a good education with only white people, and I never claimed that china should open up to us. My point was that if you limit the backgrounds of the student body to just American students in American universities, you risk developing narrow perspective. If you shout your ideas to an empty room, you only have your own echo to listen to.

In my experience, having classmates coming from different countries, cultures, and upbringings from my own has helped me understand things in a different way than if I stayed in my hometown. Not everyone is lucky enough to be able enough to be able to travel outside of their states under normal circumstances, so why not invite others here?

Not to mention, i don't know where you get your idea that no Americans are studying or living in China, as I do know some personally who have studied there.

dangstraight wrote:

wejo wrote:

Colleges are super super risk averse. Having said that people of college age seem to be the ones who should be getting back to normal if it can be done responsibly.

Covid by and large does not kill people of college age. I’m sure you can find an exception or two and you have to worry about workers getting infected but I’d like to know the logic of delaying starting college until later in the fall when the weather is worse?

Is covid supposed to go away by late fall? I don’t think so so Some one fill me in on logic of delay to when people have to be indoors more. Cancelling the entire semester makes more sense to me than delaying. But I’d like to see if we can start up on time. And also what about regional approaches and see how more measured social distancing guidelines work. Locking down is an extreme measure for extreme circumstances . How much worse is the disease with society carrying on but with distancing etc.? That is the question.

And we will see some of that as other countries and states open up in various measures.

Partying and irresponsible behavior will be a concern no matter the time of year and I don’t see what a delay does.

Also seems like we should be having summer camps for kids this summer. Kids are By and large not at risk of this. Outdoor activities seem fine to me. We did the most extreme measure possible and now need to pull this back layer by layer.

WeJo, while the disease does not affect these age groups as harshly they are a main reason for spread. I don’t know if you have kids but schools are infamous for this. Every kid in kindergarten and 1st grade is constantly sick. They give it to each other, they take it home to mom, dad, grandparents who in turn take it to the work place. Schools, and large gatherings should be the last thing opened.