Watching the Decline/End of America as a Superpower in Realtime ...

Exactly, Primo !

"It is easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they have been fooled." - Mark Twain

The doctor in the article link below gets it. We've been fooled. Me too. But no longer. How many people will wake up and realize that the time for letting our leaders (both D and R) send the USA down the toilet via this virus lock-down is OVER. The data is in and this is nothing like the threat it was hyped to be. Hell, the CDC has directed the medical community to count people who died WITH coronavirus as having died FROM coronavirus, just to prop the death total up. The federal government is also reimbursing hospitals for the treatment of those who die of coronavirus, thereby providing the hospitals an incentive to follow the CDC directive. I personally know 2 doctors who have practiced over 30 years who say they have never seen directives like this and are angry at the USA lockdown taking place because the data does not justify it.

I might have voted for Trump this fall but I won't vote for him now (nor the poor mumbling stooge Biden who put the "Dem" in Dementia, where is a decent third party candidate???) - Trump listened to that idiot Fauci and has nearly destroyed this country, which in my mind makes Trump a stooge too. We will be years recovering from this, not months.

Are you objective enough to look at the facts, not the media hype and the political power-grab, and come to your own conclusion? Even if it means admitting you've been duped (I can admit I was duped, but my eyes are open now, I know my way around statistics, data, and math and I can see now what is happening). Not by the virus, it's a real thing (although not nearly as dangerous to 99.99% of us as it's been reported), but by goverment's REACTION to the virus.

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/494034-the-data-are-in-stop-the-panic-and-end-the-total-isolation

Agreed. The pain being a loser is obviously very real though. They cry out with such BS and are willing to give their lives up for China, while lacking the smarts to learn Chinese. Good luck with that. Hard to believe that anyone in these threads, absent Chinese propaganda spies, would attempt to spread nonsense while at War.

I've rarely seen such stupidity. Islam religion of peace right...communism good... If you can't understand acts of war vs putting your own citizens in concentration camps there is little hope for you.

Thanks for the stats pretty impressive.

And what about China? China's GDP per capita is below Mexico's. China has been the world's slave state for decades. You think pay gap is bad here imagine China land of inequality? If they don't like you they just make you disappear. You are an idiot but thanks for playing.

Any facts to back up what you are saying? Didn't think so.

EU no way! They are the world's oldest regions with shrinking population. They are a demographic time bomb. They are in way more trouble than the US before you even consider the likelihood of them fracturing to pieces.

old_dead_people wrote:

Thanks for the stats pretty impressive.

You're welcome, and I never said we should have zero immigration. I don't mind if scientists, sports athletes, singers, diplomats, and college students arrive from other countries.

"In 2019, fertility remains above 2.1 births per woman, on average, over a lifetime in sub-Saharan Africa (4.6),"

All of you leftists are hypocrites for supporting abortion while at the same time you are asking for more and more babies to arrive into your schools and towns.

How many of you leftists are sponsoring the 4 to 5 children that each woman has on another continent?

The United Nations says the population "could peak at nearly 11 billion around 2100".

In the far future in the year 2100, when we will all be dead by then, there might be 11 billion humans on planet earth. How are you going to stop climate change with those kind of numbers? All of you leftists are hypocrites.

It just shocks me so many seem to be cheering for the fall of the USA. Most posters here are from Europe or North America and the US has helped uphold democracy and freedoms for decades. We have subsidized Europe's military at great expense since WWII. What do you Europeans think will happen if the US falters? You realize Russia, China, Islam etc aren't your friends right? Do you think with an aging population you can scare them off with military might? You social spending programs at the very least will be diverted into military spending.

Think it would help if we paid a congressman a mill a year and president 20m a year?

Upon graduation, the smart go private, the dumb go blue and the can’t get anything go gov.

Could not agree with you more. Funny side note, as we live in Florida and are still somewhat a functioning society, we went to Target to buy 2 items that needed to be put together. Both of them have faulty parts and need to be returned. Need anyone ask where they are from?

Another racist Thomas Malthus clone. Classical economist, Thomas Malthus from 18th Century preached doomsday nonsense when global population was only 800 million.

1) High speed rail connecting all cities greater than 1/2 million in population.

2) Subway and light rail in every city greater than 1/2 million in population.

3) Only individuals who can prove need will be able to purchase large trucks and large suv.

4) Universal healthcare for all.

5) Free college for all from age 3 to 23 except ex-military and those in healthcare fields. Those who desire careers in healthcare will attend college tuition free until their education is complete.

6) Living healthy may be mandatory. Mandatory fat camps.

7) Europe mostly got rid of their kings & queens after Great War/WW1. We will move away from this form of democracy. No telling what will be next. This form of democracy is failing. No form of government is permanent.

8) We will have learned how to separate hydrogen safely from water and cheaply fuel our needs with hydrogen by 2100.

11 billion humans will be easily absorbed. U.S. farmers are subsidized to produce below equilibrium now.

douglas burke wrote:

True Patriot wrote:

Don't forget also that in just the past couple of years America has also began literally ripping apart the statues of it's past because it's culture has began eating itself.

The Ones tearing down the Statues are some FAR LEFT Losers, The Overwhelming Majority Of Americans Love our Country and are EXTREMELY PROUD of our History. Remember we have 330 Million People, so there is bound to be some Troublemakers, just because the numbers are so huge.

There are extremes on the left and on the right. I would argue that what may harm our nation most long term is the disregard for science. This is evident in the public reaction to the COVID-19 situation, disbelief in climate change (tend to be more of right wing opinions) and distrust of vaccines (more of a left wing thing). These are symptoms of an attitude which can become even more destructive as time goes on. An example is a Facebook friend of mine who insists that the Caronavirus was intentionally leaked from a lab in China even though he cannot cite any evidence for it. I can’t prove that it didn’t happen but I can say that he can’t possibly know that it’s true. He doesn’t care though, and is excited to keep spreading it like fact. To me that is crazy but it seems that thinking like this is on the rise.

America hasn’t been an exceptional country for no reason. It’s important to remain at the forefront and do what is right and this doesn’t happen when an increasing amount of the population doesn’t believe in truth and facts.

Furthermore, I’ll add that learning from and valuing our history as a nation is different from idolizing it. I am a proud American but understand that we are in a modern and constantly changing world and we can’t all live like it’s 1776.

You're seeing the rise of the Nation of California, as you see the demise of the United States.

CA, OR, WA, NV, CO, and one or two other neighboring states if they acknowledge the ill of their ways A global superpower, unleashed from the antiquated past. A few remaining states are viable, but most of the country landmass is a wasteland, people living on it or not.

steel beats iron wrote:

Shows how clueless you guys are. Factories are almost entirely white. Walk through any auto factory or tractor factor or appliance factory and you won't see any first generation workers. Immigrants are roofing and landscaping and working in meat processing plants.

Hilarious.

You went from the majority of Americans to the majority of auto or appliance factory workers.

You made my point for me.

Next!

facts and reason wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#Hispanics

"According to a 2009 report by the Pew Hispanic Center, in 2007 Latinos "accounted for 40% of all sentenced federal offenders ‒ more than triple their share (13%) of the total U.S. adult population". This was an increase from 24% in 1991. Between 1991 and 2007, enforcement of federal immigration laws became a growing priority in response to undocumented immigration. By 2007, among Hispanic offenders sentenced in federal courts, 48% were immigration offenses, 37% drug offenses, and 15% for other offenses. One reason for the large increase in immigration offenses is that they exclusively fall under federal jurisdiction."

You are a dangerous, radical leftist. Not all immigrants are equal. They can be a burden and a danger.

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Your rampant racism and brazen ignorance are your downfall.

INCARCERATIONS There were an estimated 2,007,502 natives, 122,939 illegal immigrants, and 63,994 legal immigrants incarcerated in 2014. The incarceration rate was 1.53 percent for natives, 0.85 percent for illegal immigrants, and 0.47 percent for legal immigrants (see Figure 1). Illegal immigrants are 44 percent less likely to be incarcerated than natives. Legal immigrants are 69 percent less likely to be incarcerated than natives. Legal and illegal immigrants are underrepresented in the incarcerated population while natives are overrepresented (see Figure 2). If native-born Americans were incarcerated at the same rate as illegal immigrants, about 893,000 fewer natives would be incarcerated. If natives were incarcerated at the same rate as legal immigrants, about 1.4 million fewer natives would be incarcerated.

Educate yourself.

axtual historian wrote:

Illegal immigrants are 44 percent less likely to be incarcerated than natives.

You are the one that needs to get educated.

Have you ever thought of the reason for that skewed, biased statistic?

"67 percent of police officers surveyed reported that immigrants' fear affected their ability to protect survivors of crime."

I'll show you the real truth about Hispanic immigrants.

This is the real insanity of crime that leftists choose to ignore because they are hypocrites.

student of economics wrote:

4) Universal healthcare for all.

You are a liar or deluded. You are falsely accusing me of being racist. Name one thing I said that was racist.

I have no problem with scientists, singers, musicians, business owners, athletes, diplomats, or college students from arriving from other countries.

If robots are going to take our jobs, then we don't need to bring in millions of uneducated people from the 3rd World.

You claim, "11 billion people are fine. We can take care of all of them."

"Approximately 842 million people suffer from hunger worldwide."

"Approximately 9 million people die of world hunger each year according to world hunger statistics;"

I'm showing the real facts. You are speculating about peace and harmony in a Star Trek future.

axtual historian wrote:

Bored Dude wrote:

Most countries have a history of slavery, that doesn't make them bad. You can still be proud of a country that did something wrong many years ago.......every country has done something wrong at some point.

Every country doesn't celebrate or create lasting memorials for the perpetrators of those wrong deeds, however.

Extreme difference.

Wow. Interesting. So I guess you believe Auschwitz should be shut down then eh? Perhaps we should forget all about the atrocities of WW2?

Disgusting.